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UNT/Sun Belt Conference** Very Interesting Concept**

Postby papawasamustang » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:02 am

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5724780

I applaud the Sun Belt conference for being aggressive. As I was reading this, I couldn't help but think about the scheduling & attendance of the SMU men's hoops program.
I wish SMU/CUSA had something similar in place.
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Re: UNT/Sun Belt Conference** Very Interesting Concept**

Postby TheTastyGreek » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:48 pm

It makes it tough to fill out a home schedule, but I'm glad the conference is finally doing something about the schools that constantly drag down league RPI.

Even if it means an extra game on the road every year, I'll take it to keep ULM and the like from destroying SBC seeding in the NCAA and, many years, league at-large prospects.
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Re: UNT/Sun Belt Conference** Very Interesting Concept**

Postby SMU 86 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:45 pm

Who do you guy play in the first 5 games TTG?
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Re: UNT/Sun Belt Conference** Very Interesting Concept**

Postby TheTastyGreek » Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:28 pm

SMU 86 wrote:Who do you guy play in the first 5 games TTG?


Warm up game at home (tipoff at noon, some sort of promotion with DISD school kids) against Henderson State.

Then home against Texas Tech, on the road at Kansas, home against Rice to close out a series started last year, and on the road at Texas State as the first half of a same year home-and-home.
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Re: UNT/Sun Belt Conference** Very Interesting Concept**

Postby Pony_Fan » Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:14 pm

good stuff and great ideas. CUSA should follow suit.
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Re: UNT/Sun Belt Conference** Very Interesting Concept**

Postby PonyDoh » Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:22 am

Unless it guarantees that they become a 2-bid conference, what's the point? Just schedule competitively, not overly aggressively or like Doh. SBC is going to take some ridiculous beat downs and get very little other than a pay check at the end of the day.
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Re: UNT/Sun Belt Conference** Very Interesting Concept**

Postby PonyDoh » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:23 am

glick22 wrote:
PonyDoh wrote:Unless it guarantees that they become a 2-bid conference, what's the point? Just schedule competitively, not overly aggressively or like Doh. SBC is going to take some ridiculous beat downs and get very little other than a pay check at the end of the day.



The Sun Belt has had two bids very recently, and has teams that can push to that level and beyond. Having teams schedule OOC games similar to what SMU is doing this season does nothing but hurt the conference as a whole.


You say that, but its the conference mandate, coming straight from CUSA headquarters. Tell me how the SBCs strategy makes you a consistent two bid league again? You can't. What was true remains true. the SBC gets two bids if one team runs the conference table, hammers the OOC, and then mysteriously loses in the conference tourney. Same as any mid or lm conference. Do we think scheduling up as a conference and losing helps the overall profile of the conference? Think a 26 win SBC team that doesn't win the conference tourney, gets in before a power conference team w/less wins? Nope. Better RPI/SOS and less wins doesn't mean much come selection time.
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Re: UNT/Sun Belt Conference** Very Interesting Concept**

Postby CalallenStang » Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:07 pm

glick22 wrote:
PonyDoh wrote:
glick22 wrote:
The Sun Belt has had two bids very recently, and has teams that can push to that level and beyond. Having teams schedule OOC games similar to what SMU is doing this season does nothing but hurt the conference as a whole.


You say that, but its the conference mandate, coming straight from CUSA headquarters. Tell me how the SBCs strategy makes you a consistent two bid league again? You can't. What was true remains true. the SBC gets two bids if one team runs the conference table, hammers the OOC, and then mysteriously loses in the conference tourney. Same as any mid or lm conference. Do we think scheduling up as a conference and losing helps the overall profile of the conference? Think a 26 win SBC team that doesn't win the conference tourney, gets in before a power conference team w/less wins? Nope. Better RPI/SOS and less wins doesn't mean much come selection time.


Actually, in 2008 South Alabama didn't even make the conference championship, had no notable OOC wins, was 26-6 and was an at-large 10 seed in the tournament. Looks like you don't know as much as you think you do.


You really are a Glick, aren't you!

In 07-08, USA had wins over Mississippi State (#35 in RPI) and San Diego (#93), close losses to Ole Miss (#39) and Vandy (#15), then, in conference, beat #31 Western Kentucky twice, before losing in the conference tournament mysteriously to #105 MTSU

They were 16-2 in conference, 1-1 in the conference tournament, and 9-3 in the OOC (losses to Ole Miss and Vandy and a close loss to #80 Miami Ohio)

So you have a team that pretty much ran the table in conference, hammered the OOC, and mysteriously lost in the conference tourney.

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Re: UNT/Sun Belt Conference** Very Interesting Concept**

Postby CalallenStang » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:40 pm

glick22 wrote:Only at SMU can you consider beating a top 40 team OOC and a top 100 team as "Hammering it out of conference" LOL


They beat everyone on their OOC schedule except for three very, very good teams.

Do yourself a favor and leave before you embarrass yourself further.
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Re: UNT/Sun Belt Conference** Very Interesting Concept**

Postby ponyboy » Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:22 pm

glick22 wrote: Actually, in 2008 South Alabama didn't even make the conference championship, had no notable OOC wins, was 26-6 and was an at-large 10 seed in the tournament.


I thought they lost in the conference championship to Western Kentucky, but whatever. The point is that with that 10 seed they were not above any power conference teams with remotely comparable records. The closest that year was Baylor with 21 wins.
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