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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby TCUBCSBOUND » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:02 am

Actually I don't think it's hard to fire Doherty. The most important lesson football should have taught the university is don't sign kids unless you know 100% you will get them in school unless it's an ESPN Top 20 player.

The coach should have done his homework instead of grasping at straws and hoping. Euros in college are always risky, and Doh should know better. I think he wanted to have a built in excuse. Don't put it past him. He is a snake oil salesman.
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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby CalallenStang » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:05 am

TCUBCSBOUND wrote:Actually I don't think it's hard to fire Doherty. The most important lesson football should have taught the university is don't sign kids unless you know 100% you will get them in school unless it's an ESPN Top 20 player.

The coach should have done his homework instead of grasping at straws and hoping. Euros in college are always risky, and Doh should know better. I think he wanted to have a built in excuse. Don't put it past him. He is a snake oil salesman.


I'd blame him more for recruiting Sassafras than for recruiting the Euros. The Euros are all good players and would be perfect fits in our offense. They were worth the risk, which was seen as pretty low considering one was already playing Juco ball and another was playing in Houston.

Sassafras, meanwhile, was a swing and a miss.
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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby 78pony » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:29 am

Easy now. These things happen when you schedule great teams. Really good teams. Good teams. Average teams. Poor teams sometimes. Pathetic teams? Well hey, give coach a chance. He hasn't had enough time.
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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby One Trick Pony » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:33 am

WTf was the score allready??
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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby RGV Pony » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:39 am

One Trick Pony wrote:WTf was the score allready??


57-47.

blew a 30-18 lead

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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby skyscraper » Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:52 am

It was bad. No way of trying to ignore it.
I would be shocked if we had crowds any bigger than 1500 until Ole Miss shows up.
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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby giacfsp » Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:13 am

ALEX LIFESON wrote:
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Stallion wrote:No expectations-how about not getting run out of the house at home to a school that went 8-22 in 2009


save your outrage. if you weren't expecting these types of games, you aren't paying attention. The roster is atrocious minus the Euros and Leslee. They don't have a PG or anyone who can consistently score. Plenty of blame to go around, but the roster adds Cotton/Vilde/Smith/Pats/Manuel/Cunningham/Jones/Norman/Alexander next year, and a 5th ship. That's not even on the same planet as this team. This year is a complete write off


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That's not sunshine at all. That's an impressive influx of talent.
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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby giacfsp » Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:17 am

CalallenStang wrote:I'd blame him more for recruiting Sassafras than for recruiting the Euros. The Euros are all good players and would be perfect fits in our offense. They were worth the risk, which was seen as pretty low considering one was already playing Juco ball and another was playing in Houston.

Sassafras, meanwhile, was a swing and a miss.

One game into his career? Really? He's going to be OK. He doesn't look like a scorer, but he handles the ball OK and looks like he eventually might be a really good passer. His biggest liability might be on the defensive end, but he'll contribute. He looked a little nervous at times, a little overwhelmed at times and he made some freshman mistakes. But you're way too smart to write him off after one season, much less one game.
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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby insideualr » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:17 am

ALEX LIFESON wrote:Wow, ualr didn't win a single road game last year.


Last year we did not. The two years before that we won 43 games and tons of road games with defense and rebounding. We almost won at Memphis during that stretch. Steve Shield's hard noise defense and rebounding approach wins games. It also sags off jump shooters and lets the bomb away from the outside.
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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby PonySnob » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:44 am

It's going to be a very long season..............at least we scored more than 20 points in the first half.
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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby ponyscott » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:46 am

giacfsp wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:I'd blame him more for recruiting Sassafras than for recruiting the Euros. The Euros are all good players and would be perfect fits in our offense. They were worth the risk, which was seen as pretty low considering one was already playing Juco ball and another was playing in Houston.

Sassafras, meanwhile, was a swing and a miss.

One game into his career? Really? He's going to be OK. He doesn't look like a scorer, but he handles the ball OK and looks like he eventually might be a really good passer. His biggest liability might be on the defensive end, but he'll contribute. He looked a little nervous at times, a little overwhelmed at times and he made some freshman mistakes. But you're way too smart to write him off after one season, much less one game.


Geez a true 18 year old freshman in his first college game at home as a starting PG and you are calling a 'swing and a miss'?...way out of line and a bad call so early CalallenStang....
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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby PonyDoh » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:56 am

TCUBCSBOUND wrote:Actually I don't think it's hard to fire Doherty. The most important lesson football should have taught the university is don't sign kids unless you know 100% you will get them in school unless it's an ESPN Top 20 player.

The coach should have done his homework instead of grasping at straws and hoping. Euros in college are always risky, and Doh should know better. I think he wanted to have a built in excuse. Don't put it past him. He is a snake oil salesman.


It's true, his best recruiting class since he's been here was a built in excuse. Save that low brow nonsense for someone who doesn't actually know the score. All are in school, several are practicing and Vilde/smith in particular are two of the 3 or 4 best players on the team
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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby PonyDoh » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:58 am

ponyscott wrote:
giacfsp wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:I'd blame him more for recruiting Sassafras than for recruiting the Euros. The Euros are all good players and would be perfect fits in our offense. They were worth the risk, which was seen as pretty low considering one was already playing Juco ball and another was playing in Houston.

Sassafras, meanwhile, was a swing and a miss.

One game into his career? Really? He's going to be OK. He doesn't look like a scorer, but he handles the ball OK and looks like he eventually might be a really good passer. His biggest liability might be on the defensive end, but he'll contribute. He looked a little nervous at times, a little overwhelmed at times and he made some freshman mistakes. But you're way too smart to write him off after one season, much less one game.


Geez a true 18 year old freshman in his first college game at home as a starting PG and you are calling a 'swing and a miss'?...way out of line and a bad call so early CalallenStang....


Agreed, Calallen has a sorta blind hatred towards frog just b/c of the way the Spring PG hunt went down. I get it, but he's actually better than I expected. His stat line was actually somewhat promising. Heard he turned his ankle before half too
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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby NickSMU17 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:00 am

giacfsp wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:I'd blame him more for recruiting Sassafras than for recruiting the Euros. The Euros are all good players and would be perfect fits in our offense. They were worth the risk, which was seen as pretty low considering one was already playing Juco ball and another was playing in Houston.

Sassafras, meanwhile, was a swing and a miss.

One game into his career? Really? He's going to be OK. He doesn't look like a scorer, but he handles the ball OK and looks like he eventually might be a really good passer. His biggest liability might be on the defensive end, but he'll contribute. He looked a little nervous at times, a little overwhelmed at times and he made some freshman mistakes. But you're way too smart to write him off after one season, much less one game.


I'm no expert in basketball...but a point guard even a true frosh should have at least 1 assist, don't you think...4 To and 0 assists on his stat line tonight....

I'l give him more chances, but thats not a good indicator
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Re: smu vs ualr

Postby CalallenStang » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:48 am

PonyDoh wrote:
Agreed, Calallen has a sorta blind hatred towards frog just b/c of the way the Spring PG hunt went down. I get it, but he's actually better than I expected. His stat line was actually somewhat promising. Heard he turned his ankle before half too


If he turned his ankle, then that would explain why he was so slow on both ends in the 2nd half. What I didn't like about him was 1) he couldn't find the open man 2) he was a big liability on defense

Anyway, we're stuck with him, so I'll support him, but considering the other options we had in the recruiting season I can't help but feel like this is a huge swing-and-miss
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