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'Pony Excess' caps ESPN's '30 for 30'

Postby HB Pony Dad » Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:37 pm

The story of the scandal-plagued SMU program is a worthy capper, and the timing is delicious: right after controversial Auburn quarterback Cam Newton probably will win the Heisman Trophy.

Eric Dickerson and Craig James, the school's famed "Pony Express" backfield, both said they thought the film taught them things they hadn't known. As in the film, Dickerson was coy Monday about what, if anything, he received to play at SMU.

"It's a dead subject," he said. "The past is the past. I've never been a guy in any situation to kiss and tell. That's just not me."

Dickerson did say, though, that whatever he got at SMU "didn't come close to some things that I was offered from other schools."

As with many "30 for 30" entries, "Pony Excess" recalls events largely familiar to baby boomers but news to people born after ESPN was born in September 1979. That was part of the point.


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Re: 'Pony Excess' caps ESPN's '30 for 30'

Postby RednBlue11 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:31 pm

very good
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Postby The PonyGrad » Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:59 pm

Where can you buy the caps?
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Re: 'Pony Excess' caps ESPN's '30 for 30'

Postby RednBlue11 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:13 pm

not out yet.
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Re: 'Pony Excess' caps ESPN's '30 for 30'

Postby Hoop Fan » Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:40 pm

Good for Eric Dickerson. One thing that strikes me in the clips about the DP, is everyone says of course, how could a small private school compete without paying? Thats really what this comes down to isn't it. How does TCU do it now? I don't hear the scathing disbelief in the media about them. How does Duke basketball do it? And don't tell me its fans and butts in seats. Duke will always draw 1/3 of the fans as North Carolina. The SMU of today (Conference USA) is not the SMU of 1980 (SWC). Yes, SMU was riding UT's coattails and they helped make SMU what it was by being the big bad state school that made the SWC tick. Make no mistake, part of the problem here aside from terrible form and judgment, was that SMU was beating Texas and A&M at their own game too often.

I think the NCAA is providing a roadmap for effective cheating with the Cam Newton situation. Old Cam didn't KNOW that his father solicited money. So he is eligible. Cool. Lets just give the parents of recruits thousands of dollars for them to guide their sons to us, we can win heismans and national championships again and apologize for it later, take some schollie hits for a few years and its all good. remember, cheating is not the the problem folks in America, its the WAY you cheat.
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Re: 'Pony Excess' caps ESPN's '30 for 30'

Postby Arkpony » Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:48 pm

I am amazed at the NCAA's opinion in the Newton case! HUH? As Hoop Fan points out, all a school has to do now is PAY THE PARENTS! As long as Johnny says he knows nothing of it, everything is OK! HUH? You F^%43### Kidding me??

I read an opinion from a sportswriter that the NCAA's opinion was designed to keep Auburn Undefeated and prevent TCU from playing in the championship game. Sounds logical to me, considering it's the NCAA.

What a sorry group the NCAA is.
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Re: 'Pony Excess' caps ESPN's '30 for 30'

Postby RednBlue11 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:52 pm

they just gotta make sure that they don't send the parents cash in envalopes w/ univeristy letterhead on them.

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less than 1500 away from Super Legend, yeehaw.
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Re: 'Pony Excess' caps ESPN's '30 for 30'

Postby ponyte » Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:55 pm

RednBlue11 wrote:they just gotta make sure that they don't send the parents cash in envalopes w/ univeristy letterhead on them.

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All the idiot had to say is yes he sent it and it contained insurance forms or something. No way to prove otherwise and then its a drug addicts word against a respectable individual. Not fair but the way it could have been.
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Re: 'Pony Excess' caps ESPN's '30 for 30'

Postby Charleston Pony » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:58 pm

Hoop Fan wrote:Good for Eric Dickerson. One thing that strikes me in the clips about the DP, is everyone says of course, how could a small private school compete without paying? Thats really what this comes down to isn't it. How does TCU do it now? I don't hear the scathing disbelief in the media about them. How does Duke basketball do it? And don't tell me its fans and butts in seats. Duke will always draw 1/3 of the fans as North Carolina. The SMU of today (Conference USA) is not the SMU of 1980 (SWC). Yes, SMU was riding UT's coattails and they helped make SMU what it was by being the big bad state school that made the SWC tick. Make no mistake, part of the problem here aside from terrible form and judgment, was that SMU was beating Texas and A&M at their own game too often.

I think the NCAA is providing a roadmap for effective cheating with the Cam Newton situation. Old Cam didn't KNOW that his father solicited money. So he is eligible. Cool. Lets just give the parents of recruits thousands of dollars for them to guide their sons to us, we can win heismans and national championships again and apologize for it later, take some schollie hits for a few years and its all good. remember, cheating is not the the problem folks in America, its the WAY you cheat.


Having lived in Durham during the Laettner/Hurley final 4 years, I can tell you that the Durham community takes care of Duke bball players. Parents who want to move to be close to their kids have no trouble finding good jobs and there were restaurants that loved to see the guys come in to eat there.
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Re: 'Pony Excess' caps ESPN's '30 for 30'

Postby PoconoPony » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:01 pm

Charleston Pony wrote:
Hoop Fan wrote:Good for Eric Dickerson. One thing that strikes me in the clips about the DP, is everyone says of course, how could a small private school compete without paying? Thats really what this comes down to isn't it. How does TCU do it now? I don't hear the scathing disbelief in the media about them. How does Duke basketball do it? And don't tell me its fans and butts in seats. Duke will always draw 1/3 of the fans as North Carolina. The SMU of today (Conference USA) is not the SMU of 1980 (SWC). Yes, SMU was riding UT's coattails and they helped make SMU what it was by being the big bad state school that made the SWC tick. Make no mistake, part of the problem here aside from terrible form and judgment, was that SMU was beating Texas and A&M at their own game too often.

I think the NCAA is providing a roadmap for effective cheating with the Cam Newton situation. Old Cam didn't KNOW that his father solicited money. So he is eligible. Cool. Lets just give the parents of recruits thousands of dollars for them to guide their sons to us, we can win heismans and national championships again and apologize for it later, take some schollie hits for a few years and its all good. remember, cheating is not the the problem folks in America, its the WAY you cheat.


UNLV could match any deal anywhere the way basketball players were treated in Las Vegas during the Tarkanian days. Players had unlimited access to every restaurant in town, the car dealers chipped in and everyone had cash in pocket.
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Re: 'Pony Excess' caps ESPN's '30 for 30'

Postby SoCal_Pony » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:25 pm

Hoop Fan wrote: Make no mistake, part of the problem here aside from terrible form and judgment, was that SMU was beating Texas and A&M at their own game too often.


The DMN had an excellent expose on SMU before all the crap hit the fan about what an good job our school was doing selling not just SMU, but DALLAS and how they concluded we were not simply a 'flash-in-the-pan', but were going to have long-term success.

Doubt that story was well received in Austin, Little Rock or College Station, mainly because they knew it was true.
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Re: 'Pony Excess' caps ESPN's '30 for 30'

Postby Peruna88 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:05 pm

Charleston Pony wrote:Having lived in Durham during the Laettner/Hurley final 4 years, I can tell you that the Durham community takes care of Duke bball players. Parents who want to move to be close to their kids have no trouble finding good jobs and there were restaurants that loved to see the guys come in to eat there.


We were sitting in the bar at Damon's ribs place one Sunday watching the Cowboys game. Hurley came in there with his girlfriend and sat down near us. He was shocked when the waiter brought him a bill. He kinda looked at it and back at the waiter. Guy with me said, "Hurley - pay the bill. In 2 years no one will pick up your checks anymore, get used to it."
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