Stallion Question concerning TCU

[gostangs]

not true - I have not posted on this thread. Wait....never mind.

[Stallion]

Sorry I didn't get back to your earlier but been pretty busy last few days. TCU, like SMU, had a pretty good reception from Texas recruits but doesn't have that much to show from it at this point-like SMU. They got 3 early commits---RB Joseph Turner, 6-0, 205 4.4 Austin LBJ(he wanted to run track and play FB-had over 1,000 yards last year-Interest from Neb. NW, and A&M); LM James Vess 6-4, 250 4.9 Boswell (interest from Bay, CSU, Purdue, SMU) and TB Chris Smith 5-11, 218 4.51 Navosta-(No. 89 in Texas according to Rivals-over 1710 yards as Junior-Offer also from Baylor and interest expressed by Arizona, Miami, OSU) However, Smith recently decommitted to make other visits but still says he is 60% sure he will go to TCU. TCU had a big disappointment the other day when C Blake Kerley, who was First Team Texas Football and rumored to be leaning toward TCU, committed to Arizona. Also, huge OLM Nick Richmond (6-7, 285)--No. 83 on Rivals was thought to be ready to announce his commitment to TCU but backed off according to a statement by his father. Richmond is highly sought including offers from his favorites Bay, BC, KSU, Miss St, OSU, Tulane, and SMU. All Texas schools are facing unprecedented recruiting competition from out of state BCS programs including especially Missouri, Arizona, OSU, OU, LSU, KSU and many more. Its hard to tell right now how the conference change has affected TCU at this point but I'd say the known results so far are mediocre as it was last year among HS recruits(although they had an outstanding JC class). Interestingly, UH has really picked it up a notch with about 10 commitments which appear to be substantially higher quality than they got last year when they struggled early in the recruiting season.

[HFvictory]

However, Smith recently decommitted to make other visits but still says he is 60% sure he will go to TCU. TCU had a big disappointment the other day when C Blake Kerley, who was First Team Texas Football and rumored to be leaning toward TCU, committed to Arizona. Also, huge OLM Nick Richmond (6-7, 285)--No. 83 on Rivals was thought to be ready to announce his commitment to TCU but backed off according to a statement by his father. Richmond is highly sought including offers from his favorites Bay, BC, KSU, Miss St, OSU, Tulane, and SMU. All Texas schools are facing unprecedented recruiting competition from out of state BCS programs including especially Missouri, Arizona, OSU, OU, LSU, KSU and many more. Its hard to tell right now how the conference change has affected TCU at this point but I'd say the known results so far are mediocre as it was last year among HS recruits(although they had an outstanding JC class). Interestingly, UH has really picked it up a notch with about 10 commitments which appear to be substantially higher quality than they got last year when they struggled early in the recruiting season.

Stallion: hard to argue too much, except your knock on TCU's freshamn class. Turns out to be the highest ranked class for non-BCS schools after filtering out non-qualifiers. Otis McDaniel is a stud in waiting and Massey & Henson should contribute right away. Giles Montgomery is a name to remember and some good OL support.

Definitely agree on the out of state attack on recruits. Combine that with the pressure to commit early and this has got to be one of the more unusual recruiting years ever. OSU and AZ will get more kids out of TX than from their home states. I counted over 110 early commits this year and the football season has not begun.

I mentioned this in another post (another thread), but TCU and SMU need to get together on this whole situation. The BCS schools basically have an endless supply of funds and it is no big deal anymore for MO or AZ to recruit heavily in Texas. We are basically under attack for even the basic recruit. Kerley was a loss for both TCU and SMU. That is a kid who 5 years ago was a TCU or SMU no brainer. AZ beats us out because they out spent us, not because they have a better program.

Look at Baylor, SMU should have beaten them last year. The programs were basically even last year, but now they kick in the bucks and what happens. 5 years from now and schools like TCU & SMU will have to decide whether this is all worth the trouble. Tulane, SMU, TCU, Rice et al are hanging by a thread here boys. This is the cut year and from now on the BCS schools, even at the bottom rung, are out to wipe us out.

This year is showing the differences more than any other year. It is getting tough all over out there. Ask Bennett what happened with Chris Hall. Early commits don't mean a thing.

[SWC2010]

I think HF has a point on recruiting v. out-of-state schools.

CUSA, WAC, FWC (etc) do not serve us when we recruit primarily in TX. It's time that SMU/TCU/BAY/RICE/UH/UTEP/UNT (maybe Tulsa & Tulane)sits down & discusses re-inventing a new "SWC".

It will heighten old rivalries, save money on team/band/fan travel & allow all these schools to spotlight recruits in each of the vital markets.

What say you?

-- SWC2010

[Stallion]

I don't think therte is really any basis for saying that TCU's freshmen class is any better than SMU's-pretty much a draw if you take away the JC studs they signed which earned the points which ranked their class over SMU's.

[Silk]

Man, I do hope we can steal that big Richmond kid from that pack of schools, although looking at the competition, it sounds like it will take a hell of a sales pitch. There's some good schools on that list.

[The PonyGrad]

I think HF has a point on recruiting v. out-of-state schools.

CUSA, WAC, FWC (etc) do not serve us when we recruit primarily in TX. It's time that SMU/TCU/BAY/RICE/UH/UTEP/UNT (maybe Tulsa & Tulane)sits down & discusses re-inventing a new "SWC".

It will heighten old rivalries, save money on team/band/fan travel & allow all these schools to spotlight recruits in each of the vital markets.

-- SWC2010

TCU already did the analysis (or took the emotional leap) and went non-regional. And why would Baylor leave the gravy train? Sorry but the new SWC is a pipe dream for the foreseeable future.

[SWC2010]

I think HF has a point on recruiting v. out-of-state schools.

CUSA, WAC, FWC (etc) do not serve us when we recruit primarily in TX. It's time that SMU/TCU/BAY/RICE/UH/UTEP/UNT (maybe Tulsa & Tulane)sits down & discusses re-inventing a new "SWC".

It will heighten old rivalries, save money on team/band/fan travel & allow all these schools to spotlight recruits in each of the vital markets.

-- SWC2010

TCU already did the analysis (or took the emotional leap) and went non-regional. And why would Baylor leave the gravy train? Sorry but the new SWC is a pipe dream for the foreseeable future.

Ok grad, but the future will dictate change.
As far as Baylor, I believe the Baptisit have their hands full what with the murder of a basketball player, the cover up by the ex-head coach & a dismal 19-61 Big XII conference record. And football: 2-36 over the last 5 years in XII play!!!
I do not think the Alums will care much longer about the 'trickle down' of Big XII gravy train when they're taking that many [deleted] whuppins.

[couch 'em]

A new SWC would save on travel costs, but I don't see how you guys could see that as a target to aim for. Do you really think that'll get students or anyone out to the games? No. It won't. SMU will contine to have the rinky-dink wannabe feel that is currently has. We play Rice every year, and still students care about SMU football about as much as they cared about their high school. Yeah, they might go to a game if nothing else is going on, but in the big picture they don't really care. Unless we are playing big time programs, they will never care, nor with anyone else in the metroplex.

[EastStang]

TCU had a great season last year. I wish we could equal it. But I agree with the sentiment that no one should choose TCU over any school. To quote Betty Davis, "What a dump". But if you like bileous yellow stucco, hey TCU's your place.

[Sic_em]

Baylor fans have endured a lot over the past few years but most of the BU fans I know are positive about the current situation...this coming year is going to be very tough in men's basketball because the roster is depleted due to the self-imposed sanctions, but Scott Drew already has commitments from two National Top 100 guards for the class of '05. With the way this staff can recruit, the talent level will be there within a couple of years.

Football didn't get in a hole overnight and it won't get out of it overnight either, but for the first time since Teaff, Baylor finally has a quality coaching staff and they're starting to bring in a higher level of talent. 10 early commits already and nearly all show up on at least one State Top 100 list.