Bowl Game CEOs

[Water Pony]

Article, "Fat-Cat Football". CEOs at the bank window:

http://www.time.com/time/business/artic ... 56,00.html

[ponyte]

I feel I received good value from my ARB tickets and experience (other than the results of the game). My daughters (one of which is an LSU student) all were pleased with their experience. The LSU daughter was astounded that a bowl game could be so much fun. If the product was satisfying to me, why should I care how the Bowl spends its revenue?

We at SMU have learned the hard way, if one wants to attract the best talent for the job, one has to be willing to pay for that talent.

We learned it in the 80s and we have learned it again recently.

If other bowls provide the same value to their customers, why should anyone care? If they don’t provide value to their customers, then that bowl will either change leadership or go broke.

[Dutch]

i think the point is that these guys are the frontrunners fighting against a playoff.

[ponyte]

The lack of a playoff isn't the responsibility of Bowl CEOs. That is the responsibility of the NCAA. If the NCAA has no desire to implement a playoff season, then those that are willing to take a risk on post season bowls will fill the void.

Until the NCAA alters the market of post season play with a playoff system, then the Bowls will continue to thieve. There is a robust market (fans) that desire post season play. The NCAA, not the bowl CEOs, has decided it isn't interested in producing a product for the post season fans.

[ObeyMyDog]

The lack of a playoff isn't the responsibility of Bowl CEOs. That is the responsibility of the NCAA. If the NCAA has no desire to implement a playoff season, then those that are willing to take a risk on post season bowls will fill the void.

Until the NCAA alters the market of post season play with a playoff system, then the Bowls will continue to thieve. There is a robust market (fans) that desire post season play. The NCAA, not the bowl CEOs, has decided it isn't interested in producing a product for the post season fans.

Unfortunately it isn't that simple. As a matter of fact the NCAA has basically nothing to do with post season college football. Even if they wanted to implement a playoff system they couldn't until the BCS willingly disappears. And we all know that will not happen anytime in the near future and won't happen without a huge ugly fight. I wont go in to the particulars but I highly suggest reading the book "Death to the BCS", it is very eye opening and explains how hard the BCS actually has postseason college football by the balls. Easy and quick read.

Just think about this, D1-A college football is the only college sport that the NCAA does not officially crown an NCAA champion. You become the BCS champion.

[NickSMU17]

Welcome...

[ObeyMyDog]

Thanks, finally decided to jump in on the conversation. Somebody has to be right once in awhile around here. Figured I'd fill that void for y'all.

[ponyte]

The lack of a playoff isn't the responsibility of Bowl CEOs. That is the responsibility of the NCAA. If the NCAA has no desire to implement a playoff season, then those that are willing to take a risk on post season bowls will fill the void.

Until the NCAA alters the market of post season play with a playoff system, then the Bowls will continue to thieve. There is a robust market (fans) that desire post season play. The NCAA, not the bowl CEOs, has decided it isn't interested in producing a product for the post season fans.

Unfortunately it isn't that simple. As a matter of fact the NCAA has basically nothing to do with post season college football. Even if they wanted to implement a playoff system they couldn't until the BCS willingly disappears. And we all know that will not happen anytime in the near future and won't happen without a huge ugly fight. I wont go in to the particulars but I highly suggest reading the book "Death to the BCS", it is very eye opening and explains how hard the BCS actually has postseason college football by the balls. Easy and quick read.

Just think about this, D1-A college football is the only college sport that the NCAA does not officially crown an NCAA champion. You become the BCS champion.

Didn't say it would be easy. Just as it wasn't easy for the NCAA to create a BB tournemt for the NC when the NIT had existed and crowned a champion for years. The NCAA can, if it desires, put into motion a NC for D1A football. It isn't a powerless organization.

[ObeyMyDog]

The NCAA isn't powerless, that's absolutely true. The problem is the BCS' power, more specifically the most powerful people who run and control the BCS (AKA the AQ conference commissioners, most specifically the Big 10 commish Delaney). These people are never going to budge when it comes to the BCS (and the NCAA really can't make them) unless they are legally compelled too or a pile of cash so absurdly big is put in front of them for a playoff that it would be completely insane not to sign a contract with some sort of playoff system.

Apparently that pile of cash has to be bigger than a projected overall $500 million increase in revenue from a playoff system. Passing up on an extra $500 mil to the entire college football system is not insane and is in fact not worth it according to the BCS big wigs.

[Nacho]

death to the bcs is required reading.
anyone who hasn't read this book is not fully knowledgeable about the inner workings of college football.
if you are a college football fan you must read it. out.

[stc9]

The bowl system is not going anyplace for another reason. Mid Majors like SMU don't want to get rid of the bowl system. They might not like the BCS and their Presidents could cause some problems for that, but they will never vote against a bowl system in favor of a playoff.

At a mid major bowls are a large source of revenue (not like the AQ Schools, but still revenue). They would have to be insane to try to abolish one of their few sources of outside revenue. Their are 35 bowl games (70 teams). Not all AQ Schools take up those 70 slots. Why turn away the revenue when your school would never be invited to play in the playoffs anyway?

[rich59]

A meaningful playoff ( with all D1 teams eligible) does not have to eliminate the bowls. Some of the bowls could be part of the playoff and the rest of the bowls could go on as before and would be no more irrelevant than they already are. The NIT exists nicely in spite of the NCAA tournament. The BCS system only exists in order for the fat cats to hog most of the money. Hopefully someday, litigation will change the system.