RednBlue11 wrote: there's no Boulevard in San Antone.
but there's a rio.... case opened!
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Road trip to San Antonio ?Moderators: PonyPride, SmooPower
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but there's a rio.... case opened!
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A good point your making. If we're going to use tcu as a model for how our program will develop then we would need to follow a similar pattern. Remember how the frogs went to play the sooners in Norman in 2006? Not only that, but they won (and boy did it feel good beating them the very next week). Actions like that put you on the map nationally Snuffers cheese fries
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I think June would also point to Hawaii's 2007 season with two 1-AA teams (one of which was in its 1st or 2nd year after moving up from D-2). Heard him say once "you know what...when we got to the Sugar Bowl...they didnt mind the 1AA games"
Re: Road trip to San Antonio ?Yeah, at this point I think wins are more important than who we beat. Last year we played two non conference teams that were clearly superior and one that is hard for us to defense. We also barely made it to a bowl game and had to have help to win our division. If we compete for the Confernece Championship and play in bowl games for the next couple of years our recruiting should continue to improve and then it will be time to improve the competition. But right now I would prefer weaker opponents and wins.
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Although I would love to avoid the 40+ point beat down in said Sugar Bowl. That takes some of the wind out of your sails. Maybe I'm being picky.
Re: Road trip to San Antonio ?Hate to break this to you guys but TCU has averaged playing more than 2 BCS programs per year since 1998. 28 games in 13 years. Record is 20-8. They have beaten:
Wisconsin Oregon St Baylor (3) Virginia Clemson Stanford(2) Oklahoma Texas Tech Iowa St Northwestern (3) Arizona Vanderbilt(2) Southern Cal Not to mention the multiple games with Boise, Utahs, BYU, Louisville and Southern Miss when they were top programs-3 of which have subsequently earned BCS status and another than has been a BCS killer Plus they have played UT, A&M, Nebraska, OU(twice more in losses), Arizona, Texas Tech in losses-not to mention they've had about 6+ BCS games cancelled because they were too good. You guys keep talking about TCU playing a weak schedule which is ridiculous especially since MWC has been significantly better than CUSA based on ant rating system you want to use--looks like they are trying to schedule Cal and BYU next year. I see a very high number of Top National programs including 4 of the most historic programs in College Football History in UT, OU(3), USC and Nebraska-don't know what you all are looking at. If you schedule a bunch of nobodies then don't be surprised if nobody comes and don't be surprised if any success we have is downgraded by a weak schedule.TCU has scheduled only FIVE Division 1-AA schools in 13 years-and the fact is those were scheduled when other BCS schools backed out of contracts. TCU has NEVER scheduled 2 Division 1AA schools in any year as claimed. Finally, let's see if SMU can schedule all these nobodies and come close to the 32,000-45,000 TCU has averaged for the last Decade. Its absolutely false that TCU built their program by playing a weak schedule. In fact their program was built by stepping up and playing and beating some pretty bad [deleted] programs Last edited by Stallion on Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris
When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
Re: Road trip to San Antonio ?Oregon St was No. 24 in the Country when TCU played them and before injuries to some of their best players. Pretty weak comeback when TCU looked for a national program that was ranked high to start the season. TCU wasn't ducking anybody and you guys claiming that TCU's strategy is to schedule Division 1AA schools are wrong-those games were scheduled when other BCS teams dropped TCU and TCU had to find opponents about 9 months prior to the Season. SMU fans need to stop hoping we can back into the Enchilada Bowl with a 6-6 record. You guys are actually scared to play Navy and Army-and yet you want to be a Top 25 program? Really?
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris
When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
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So what will your stance be in 2013 when SMU runs the table in C-USA and is looking for respect from the big boys? You can't have it both ways - will you be saying that we don't deserve respect, either? Some of you need to understand that you can still dislike TCU but respect them for what they have done. Give credit where it is due.
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This is exactly what I am saying. At this point if I were doing the scheduling I would schedule TCU and all other non conference games would be with weaker teams - they don't have to be lower division, because now we are better than at least 40-50% of the Div 1 teams. The main thing is to schedule teams we should beat. If we go into conference play with a 3-1 record we will get noticed and be half way to bowl eligibility. Now as we improve with recruiting and depth then we should up the anti and schedule more difficult teams. I look forward to the day when we are realistically competitive with anyone in the country and then I would schedule anyone. And, yes stallion I am scared of Nave right now. They execute the option really well and have talent as good as we do. Given the rest of our opponents they are going to be very difficult to beat and they require our defense to spend way too much time on an offense we only see once a year. When we have much better talent and depth then they will offer an interesting change of pace. I don't know what TCU did, but I know what the big time AQ schools are doing - they know wining counts more than loosing to a good team.
Re: Road trip to San Antonio ?Here's a clue. The "big time AQ schools" do it because they can get 65,000-100,000 playing the YMCA. They are automatic paydays that don't require a return away game. They earn 80,000 x $75 per ticket + Seat Licenses + Merchandise. That formula DOES NOT work for SMU which will be lucky to draw 16-18,000 real paying fans. And when they get into conference they play schools like OU, UT, OSU, A&M, Tech or Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, Auburn Mississippi St. The only way to get respect is to earn it-the biggest victories that made their program were victories over USC, Oklahoma, Utah, Wisconsin which transformed them into the National Spotlight-they would get very little respect for beating teams like Rice, Tulane, Tulsa, Washington St, Marshall, ECU and some Division 1AA school. The two CUSA teams that got a little national respect are the teams that actually beat someone like Tulsa beating Notre Dame or UCF beating Georgia. UH got that respect last year beating Texas Tech and Oklahoma St, East Carolina got that respect early in past seasons by beating BCS schools. Fresno once got that respect. Boise has earned that respect. Utah has earned that respect. If we want SMU to be national prominent we are going to have to earn it to against teams like those listed above-and when we do they will still say we don't play anyone in CUSA
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris
When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
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You do not know your JJ background and Hawaii football history when you make this type of statement. JJ *hated* Hawaii playing 2 D-IAA teams in 2007. The Honolulu Advertiser discussed how JJ tried to open the season *at Texas Tech*, with ESPN liking the idea and Mike Leach on board with it also. Unfortunately, Hawaii's failure of an AD did not want JJ to get any credit and insisted that he had the scheduled games "in his back pocket." Then he completely failed to deliver. JJ is on record supporting Hawaii's attempt to play at USC in 2007 and at Michigan when USC turned the game down. The complete failure in getting D-IA schools to play Hawaii in 2007 was the only reason why Hawaii scheduled a second D-IAA game in 2007...having to give them a *sweet* deal ($$$) because the season was so close to beginning and Hawaii had no leverage. So, claiming that JJ *wanted* to play 2 D-IAA schools in 2007 is completely off base. The failure of Hawaii's AD to avoid that pitiful scheduling mess is one reason why JJ's relationship with the AD completely broke down...and one reason why JJ is coaching at SMU today.
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perhaps not, but I, along with a couple hundred others, heard JJ say exactly that. It's not what I think I heard JJ said. It's what JJ said. Also, I think your post mischaracterized my prior testimony. I did not say that JJ "wanted" to play 1AA teams. I said he'd point to that season, which he has.
Re: Road trip to San Antonio ?Everyone wants to play and beat top teams on a regular basis. The question is WHEN.
We have to walk before we run. Is our progress best served by getting beat by 3 BCS teams every season damaging our record? Or does everyone think we are now at a level to be competitive with A&M et. al. and possibly win? Losing a competitive game against TCU last year on national TV was better for us than beating down Sul Ross St. Will we play aggy close? "I think Couchem is right."
-EVERYONE
Re: Road trip to San Antonio ?CFN thinks we are a dangerous match-up for TAMU
Summary: The Aggies have a not-that-awful non-conference schedule with SMU certain to be dangerous, "smupony94: Harry, you have been promoted to purveyor of official status capabilities."
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Good for TCU. Perhaps you will use that "model" when you're in charge.
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