UT and independance

by **2ndandlong** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:01 pm

I'm not sure what your point is about UCLA because they have not won a national championship in football in the BCS era and don't regularly end in the top 25 (once since 2002).

You listed TCU? When was their national championship? You're listing teams that ranked. Penn State in Philadelphia and ranks consistently. Stanford is in the Bay Area as is Cal.

by **HoustonHornedFrog** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:21 am

2ndandlong wrote:I'm not sure what your point is about UCLA because they have not won a national championship in football in the BCS era and don't regularly end in the top 25 (once since 2002).

You listed TCU? When was their national championship? You're listing teams that ranked. Penn State in Philadelphia and ranks consistently. Stanford is in the Bay Area as is Cal.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Penn State is in State College almost 200 miles from Philly. It is closer to Pittsburg but not in the Pittsburg media area either. Stanford is in the bay area but has had one top 25 finish since 2002, so it is not a regular top 25 team.

If you are going to attempt to respond, PLEASE try reading the entire post before you start ranting. I didn't say there were NO teams from top 25 markets that were regulars in the top 25 in college football. I mentioned TCU as the most successful team in a major market in the last 3 years despite not being in a BCS-AQ conference. The point all along was that being in a BCS conference and a major media market does not equal being a college football powerhouse. There are numerous examples. Northwestern, U Minn, Rutgers, Maryland, U Washington, Colorado, Indiana, Stanford, UCLA. All in BCS-AQ conferences and in large media markets, none are regulars in the top 25. Let me correct one misstatement. While Athens is about 70 miles from Atlanta, it is considered by most to fall within the Atlanta media market so the SEC has one school in a top 25 market.

By way of example, here is a ranking of the top 25 college football programs from 2000-2009. This isn't my list and I'm not saying I agree with their methodology but it is a decent enough representation.

1.USC
2.Oklahoma
3.Texas
4.Ohio State
5.Florida
6.LSU
7.Georgia
8.Boise State
9.Miami
10.Virginia Tech
11.Oregon
12.Florida State
13.TCU
14.Auburn
15.West Virginia
16.Boston College
17.Utah
18.Alabama
19.Michigan
20.Wisconsin
21.Nebraska (tie with Iowa)
22.Iowa (tie with Nebraska)
23.Texas Tech
24.Oregon State
25.Tennessee

Of the top 25, 5 are in BCS conferences and top 25 media markets. I'm done here.