Auburn Pay for Play Scandal May Explode Again

by **Stallion** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:50 pm

supposedly an HBO special Wednesday Nite that interviews 4 former Auburn players talking about Pay Per Play. But you have to watch Bryant Gumbel. After reading the quotes it looks like your typical money handshakes, sexual favors, and rewards for big plays that most of us have always suspected at just about every major program in the country- It will be interesting to see if they establish any organized payment scheme orchestrated by representatives of the university. I don't see many names being offered of violators and unless names and proof of organized payment schemes are uncovered this won't lead to much of anything. Just your typical [deleted] alumni and program hanger-on that gets his rocks off by sucking up to College athletes.

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ex-auburn ... play-29592

by **couch 'em** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:51 pm

Hmmmm, I feel like I've seen something similar in a documentary once...

by **Stallion** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:54 pm

....apparently these players played outside statute of limitations based on reports I've read

by **Junior** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:11 pm

well, at least until the Cam Newton truths come out.

by **stc9** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:12 am

Reading the article, it was nice to see Ohio State get more press. Didn't the Whorns have a scandal a couple of years ago regarding throwing women at recruits?

If the NCAA really wanted to clean up college football, they would string these programs up to a minimum of what they did to USC. The NCAA doesn't have the cojones to ever give the death penalty to either of these schools.

Does the NCAA have a statute of limitations?

by **ponyte** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:16 am

The NCAA announced this morning that Centenary College will be placed on 5 years probation, stripped of all athletic scholarships and required to pay a $250,000 fine as punishment for Auburn's transgressions.

Nothing will happen from all this. Auburn will find a way to blame a 'rogue' booster and the NCAA will round up the usual number of suspects.

by **RednBlue11** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:32 am

MAY explode? there's no question it will. based on some of the quotes from the special they were doing things not far off from what we were in the 80's.

Report: Four ex-Auburn players got cash

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6272478

Also in the interview with HBO, Ramsey said Auburn boosters would approach him after games, and that they would give as much as $300 to $400 a game. He said that before he arrived at Auburn, a booster gave him spending money during his junior college career.

The former Auburn offensive guard said he accepted more than $5,000 in cash from boosters, but that he has since taken a stand against the practice. "I'm not out to get anybody, I want high school athletes to know what they're getting into," he told HBO.

in the end there will be a lot more than 4 that will be found out to have have been paid.

by **Stallion** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:51 pm

:10 minute warning. Ch. 300 on Dish HBO E

by **MrMustang1965** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:04 pm

It's on right now. Texas Tech & Auburn fans should be watching.

by **Junior** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:26 pm

Sure is easy to take a stand against a group of individuals continuing to get paid when you're no longer part of that group.

by **Mexmustang** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:31 pm

Reading the article, it was nice to see Ohio State get more press. Didn't the Whorns have a scandal a couple of years ago regarding throwing women at recruits?

The Whorn scandal is just sitting, simmering and may blow up in their teasip faces. They are trying to "fix" things, as they always do, and it doesn't seem to be working on an attorney that is more interested in publicity than money, isn't cooperating! Like a volcano I still have hopes this thing will blowup any day.

by **RednBlue11** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:32 pm

Junior wrote:Sure is easy to take a stand against a group of individuals continuing to get paid when you're no longer part of that group.

there is a huge qualifier to put in there, especially when that other group has your future in their hands and will ruin it if you stand up to them.

also, when that other group makes you sign over your image to them for life w/ no opportunity to recover any kind of royalties for the selling of your image.

ALSO, when that other group makes you sign a stipulation declaring specifically that you are an amateur and therefore are not eligible for any compensation.

by **RednBlue11** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:13 am

by **Charleston Pony** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:50 pm

another shocking report of a SEC school paying players. If you watched the report, Coach Rodriguez about summed it up when he commented on how understaffed the NCAA enforcement arm is. Bottom line is that, just as it was in SMU's case...not sure anything will happen unless the media pursues this further and hands over evidence to the NCAA. Then they can't ignore it....or can they?

None of this will ever change unless/until the NFL establishes minor league football, just like baseball...to give athletes (who aren't really cut out to be students) an option to earn a living doing playing ball instead of having to stay academically eligible

one suggestion was to provide full ride scholarship plus a stipend...which brought the response that there are really only about 60 schools who could afford to play at the highest (budget) level. I guess the question is "how high a stipend? and what would the rules be on stipends? I could see that system working if top kids get $1,000/mo down to marginal players getting only the scholarship. Schools would have to budget and boosters contributions could help fund the payments. The big boys could end up with the majority of their 85 kids getting close to that $1,000/mo and it would force the majority to decide they really don't want to participate in football at the "semi-pro level"

by **Stallion** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:00 pm

The NCAA wasn't so understaffed in the early 1980s. Although it is true that the media broke the stories, the NCAA purposely reduced its enforcement staff because the bad publicity was bad for business. Before the mid 1980s nobody cooperated with the NCAA. The system was changed to encourage cooperation, self reporting, investigation and punishment by NCAA. SMU didn't get the message and that's partly why they nailed us. If you read NCAA bylaws today you will find that if you implement a system of institutional control, monitoring, and self investigation then the NCAA is going to give schools a break if they acted reasonably and the university and its representatives were not directly participating in the offenses. The universities themselves were the ones that killed the large enforcement staffs of the NCAA