OT - A late retirement

[harry callahan]

An Aggie friend was lamenting the fact that Turgeon left for Maryland. He seriously thinks there's a comparison between the two.

If Turgeon were a football coach, he might have a complaint, but in hoops? Aggie High is a football-first school, and always will be. Maryland, on the other hand, is Maryland. John Lucas, Tom McMillan, Len Elmore, Buck Williams, Albert King, Greg Manning, Adrian Branch, Walt Williams, Len Bias, Grevis Vasquez, etc. It's the ACC, and it's the fertile Washington-Baltimore-Philadelphia feeding grounds for recruits.

This move was a no-brainer.

Glad your such an expert in hoops but Texas A & M has done outstanding in basketball and draw excellent crowds. Your Aggie High putdown really is a slam to the players and coaching staff who bust their tail everyday. We are so blessed by your wonderful insight that football is king at A & M. We could not have figured that out on our own. Did you have an inside source? Maryland also likes their football - check their attendance especially when they are winning.

Good god, I'm not trying to break news by saying Aggie High is a football-first school (and I don't care if the term is a "slam" to the players and coaching staff — I'm a PonyFan, and have disliked A&M for decades, and I will continue to make fun of them, just like fans everywhere make fun of teams they don't like. Do you think the Aggies feel guilty when they make fun of the Horns?) I don't discount the fact that Aggie High has "done outstanding" in basketball, but Turgeon made no secret of the fact that he felt he got inadequate support, especially from the athletic and university administration, and that he wished he had larger crowds. That's not an industry secret — he has made it plainly clear in interviews.

Your a sweetheart! I am sorry

[harry callahan]

From the San Antonio Express-News:

Turgeon, 97-40 at A&M, was frustrated with often-lackluster crowds in Reed during nonconference play — and even during Big 12 play. He pounded his fist on an interview table after Reed was less than half full this past season for a victory over Iowa State. But Turgeon said Monday small crowds weren't the reason for his departure.

“This has nothing to do with (attendance),” he said. “It wasn't about money, either. It was just a gut decision for me to try something.”

Maryland is considered one of the nation's top 15 basketball jobs — and a university and its fan base that puts hoops first. The Terrapins won the national title in 2002 under Williams.

A&M, like many other schools in the South, is considered a football-first university.


Great reliable information! Thank you

Rest of the story:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/coll ... 371380.php

[harry callahan]

[quote="RGV Pony]UWashington vs ??[/quote]

Ross was a verbal to Maryland, playing at Montrose, for better part of a year before it all went down. Dumbest thing we ever did was put Tross in the UA sponsored Elite 24 game, after he skipped AAU. Nike pretty much forgot about him, then we showcased him, and they grabbed him back. It was ugly, and his Mom lives in Oregon, so they just had so much access.[/quote]

Maybe the young man wanted to play in the Elite 24 game. It is his life not hoopmax or Sonny Vaccaro's. Why don't you publish your book on "dirty deals" since this has only been going on for 40 years with the exception of a few schools. It would be a best seller.

[harry callahan]

callahan has no clue, and is abrasive alll while being wrong. Awesome! Terps could care less about football, especially since they chose Edsall.

Miller and Terps barely discussed contract before Nike stepped in and threatened Miller. Jumping to a UA school, even if ts Maryland, is potentially very damaging to rising careers.

Lastly, Turgeon did leave b/c A$M is a football school, and he played at Kansas, and coached at Wichita St, both hoops schools. He hated the support he received administratively, and from the 'fans'. Just wanted a basketball environment, can't blame him.

Did you mean all instead of alll? That would be the first clue about what you supposedly know about the Terps and their situation. Why, your kidding, Texas A & M is a football school. Thanks for the breaking news. When did this happen?

[harry callahan]

So is BCG going back to A&M? Or which CUSA coach will be on their short list?

BCG -

DUI - UTEP - CHECK
DUI - TULSA - CHECK
DUI - KENTUCKY - CHECK
GAMBLES AT HORSE TRACK - CHECK
GOES TO $$%%^ CLUBS - CHECK
Can really coach and recruit - Check

[mrydel]

Make it stop.

[harry callahan]

Make it stop.

I will for you!

[hoopmanx]

Hey Max,
Are you the new Sonny Vaccaro? Are the "answer" and have all the scoop? I would be a big boy and admit before the hire that Nike stepped in. Google Hoop Dirt, it is much more realiable that your information.

I've known Sonny for 15 years or so, he currently works for the same employer I do. Yes, hoopdirt is the industry standard.

[hoopmanx]

[quote="RGV Pony]UWashington vs ??[/quote]

Ross was a verbal to Maryland, playing at Montrose, for better part of a year before it all went down. Dumbest thing we ever did was put Tross in the UA sponsored Elite 24 game, after he skipped AAU. Nike pretty much forgot about him, then we showcased him, and they grabbed him back. It was ugly, and his Mom lives in Oregon, so they just had so much access.[/quote][/quote]

Maybe the young man wanted to play in the Elite 24 game. It is his life not hoopmax or Sonny Vaccaro's. Why don't you publish your book on "dirty deals" since this has only been going on for 40 years with the exception of a few schools. It would be a best seller.[/quote]

We asked him to play you [deleted]. it's an invite deal, and he wasn't an elite 24 kid, just getting the complimentary showcase for the charter school. Go away

[harry callahan]

[quote="RGV Pony]UWashington vs ??[/quote]

Ross was a verbal to Maryland, playing at Montrose, for better part of a year before it all went down. Dumbest thing we ever did was put Tross in the UA sponsored Elite 24 game, after he skipped AAU. Nike pretty much forgot about him, then we showcased him, and they grabbed him back. It was ugly, and his Mom lives in Oregon, so they just had so much access.[/quote][/quote]

Maybe the young man wanted to play in the Elite 24 game. It is his life not hoopmax or Sonny Vaccaro's. Why don't you publish your book on "dirty deals" since this has only been going on for 40 years with the exception of a few schools. It would be a best seller.[/quote][/quote][/quote]

We asked him to play you [deleted]. it's an invite deal, and he wasn't an elite 24 kid, just getting the complimentary showcase for the charter school. Go away[/quote]

If you are friends with Sonny then that speaks volumes about you

[WildHorse]

What does it say? That he understands the business of basketball on enough levels that a huge company that makes millions feels he is worth employing?

Oh, the shame of it all.

[Pony!Poni!Pone'!]

for those Sopranos fans: James Gandolfini is supposed to play Sonny Vaccaro in an upcoming HBO movie

[harry callahan]

What does it say? That he understands the business of basketball on enough levels that a huge company that makes millions feels he is worth employing?

Oh, the shame of it all.

Do you see Roy Williams, Bob Knight, Coach K, etc .....The guys doing the right things for college basketball dealing with this guy. Tark and him were buddies. Do I need to say more?

[mrydel]

Do I need to say more?

NO!

[Hoofprint]

Do you see Roy Williams, Bob Knight, Coach K, etc .....The guys doing the right things for college basketball dealing with this guy. Tark and him were buddies. Do I need to say more?

Lumping Roy Williams in with those other two seems like a huge reach. His pure and clean act just seems ridiculous. I have no doubt that Knight (gruff as he might be) and Coach K are as clean as any coaches in the country, but you'll never convince me RoyBoy belongs in the same sentence with those two (in terms of clean image or coaching ability, for that matter).