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Re: Forget In-and-Out — look what else is coming to Dallas

Postby Peruna 2K5 » Fri May 13, 2011 11:19 am

I was going to go today but am not going to be able to make it
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Re: Forget In-and-Out — look what else is coming to Dallas

Postby PK » Fri May 13, 2011 11:52 am

Peruna 2K5 wrote:I was going to go today but am not going to be able to make it

Shouldn't this be on twitter? :wink:
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Re: Forget In-and-Out — look what else is coming to Dallas

Postby lwjr » Fri May 13, 2011 2:17 pm

I was reading about the Heart Attack Grill in the DMN, and how some "weight loss consultant" will be at the front doors protesting this place. Thank goodness we have someone who thinks she needs to look out for all of us!

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/arch ... ked-a.html

"The Heart Attack Grill will start selling burgers in the West End on Friday. The Arizona restaurant has built a reputation on its use of lard and butterfat in its burgers, fries and shakes. Its owner Jon Basso calls himself Dr. Jon and waitresses wear provocative nursing costumes. Customers weighing over 350 pounds eat free.

"It's just a blatant smack in the face against people who need help, who need to lose weight," said Laurel Wright of Highland Village who works as a consultant for local weight loss groups of Dallas-based Slimming World USA. "They are not helping them at all."

To show her opposition, Wright will be outside the restaurant's doors in the West End to protest. Her strategy? Handing out good old fruits and vegetables. She's got 1,000 apples, oranges, grapefruits, bananas and ears of corn ready to go.

Wright plans to bring a life-sized cutout photo of herself before she lost 80 pounds. Her husband and son have also lost weight. She's going at 5 am to make sure she gets a good parking spot and says she'll be there for lunch and dinner hour.

"I can tell you for sure I won't be eating there," she said.
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Re: Forget In-and-Out — look what else is coming to Dallas

Postby Peruna 2K5 » Fri May 13, 2011 3:28 pm

PK wrote:
Peruna 2K5 wrote:I was going to go today but am not going to be able to make it

Shouldn't this be on twitter? :wink:


good call
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Re: Forget In-and-Out — look what else is coming to Dallas

Postby AWelbourn » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:11 pm

Looks like I am heading to Dallas in the near future!
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Re: Forget In-and-Out — look what else is coming to Dallas

Postby ponyboy » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:32 pm

Fat and cholesterol are not bad for you. Too many carbs are. So chow on the burgers and limit the shakes and fries.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/magaz ... t-lie.html
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Postby 2ndandlong » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:35 pm

Keep telling yourself that.
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Postby ponyboy » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:02 pm

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Postby 2ndandlong » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:13 pm

that's also about the time Oprah went on the air, and I'm pretty sure she's responsible for a
large share of that.

plus, americans think white bread, semolina pasta, and white rice are healthy carbs when they are more closely related to pure sugar. whole grains have never been the carbohydrates that americans turn to.
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Re: Forget In-and-Out — look what else is coming to Dallas

Postby ponyboy » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:00 am

Whole grains are less bad, it is true.

Oprah watchers accounted for only about 2.5% of the population. Not a factor in the least.

The numbers above show an enormous tidal shift occurring in the standard American diet with the governmental recommendations that we shift to a diet with enormous quantities of carbohydrates in the form of increasingly processed grains, sugars (not just white sugar but what is far worse high fructose corn syrup) as the base. Though mostly well intentioned, this shift was based on a lot of pseudo science, a ton of lobbying support by the agriculture industry, and simple politics. The science simply does not support it and you'll see the nutritional gurus come around to this slowly over the next several years as they've already done with the recommendations to limit white flour and high fructose corn syrup, increase certain kinds of fat (not all fat is bad, now they tell us), etc. But even whole grains, while lower on the glycemic index and therefore more slowly absorbed, eventually end up as mere sugar. (That's to say nothing of antinutrients and the autoimmune effects of grain, a subject for another day).

See Gary Taubes' Good Calories, Bad Calories for a systematic dismemberment of the lipid hypothesis. The now almost counterintuitive fact (it was certainly not counterintuitive for our great grandparents) is that consuming fat does not make you fat. Sugar -- which is all any carbohydrate is, whether simple or complex -- causes the body to produce the hormone insulin which sends a signal to the body to story energy as body fat. We knew this forever until geniuses like Ancel Keys came along.

[Note: Not all fats are good. Avoid manmade frankenfats such as trans fats and hydrogenated fats. Avoid soybean oil. Watch your omega 3/omega 6 ratio, making sure to get enough omega 3s. But natural fats, whether saturated, unsaturated, polyunsatured are good for you.]

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Postby 2ndandlong » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:50 am

Great read: The China Study

Most comprehensive health study ever conducted with over 250000 participants.
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Re: Forget In-and-Out — look what else is coming to Dallas

Postby ponyboy » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:07 am

An observational study with serious statistical problems throughout.

Wise words from nutritionist and China Study reviewer Denise Minger (who, by the way, assumes the China Study's conclusions are solid if incomplete):

The success of the Chinese on plant-based diets does not invalidate the experiences of other populations who evade disease while consuming animal products. Nor does individual success on a vegan program nullify the disease reversal seen by those adhering to specific omnivorous diets. Rather than studying the dissimilarities between healthy populations, perhaps we should examine their areas of convergence—the shared lack of refined carbohydrates, the absence of refined sweeteners and hydrogenated oils, the emphasis on whole, unprocessed foods close to their natural state, and the consumption of nutritionally dense fare rather than empty calories or ingredients concocted in a lab setting. Modern foods, and the diseases they herald, have usurped the dietary seats once occupied by more wholesome fare. It is this commonality—the thread bonding healthy populations—that may offer the most meaningful insight into human health.


http://rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2 ... ponse2.pdf

Also see: http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/canc ... ina-study/
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Re: Forget In-and-Out — look what else is coming to Dallas

Postby WildHorse » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:16 pm

So has anyone tried this place yet?

Yes, it's a health hazard of the highest order. But how is the chow?
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Re: Forget In-and-Out — look what else is coming to Dallas

Postby White Helmet » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:55 pm

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This graph is misleading and poor science. It makes no correlation between what people are consuming other than when the recommendations were made. Also there is no control for total calories consumed which is a bigger issue than total macro nutrient balance, especially since when this curve really takes off is where the NHLBI starts showing the boom in "serving" size as well.
http://hp2010.nhlbihin.net/portion/index.htm
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Re: Forget In-and-Out — look what else is coming to Dallas

Postby ponyboy » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:51 pm

But *why* did serving size increase? Answer: Because we were hungrier. And why were we hungrier? Answer: Because never in the history of the human (or prehuman) race have we ever consumed carbohydrates in such quantity. Ever. It's unprecedented and an enormous mistake.

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