Forget In-and-Out â€” look what else is coming to Dallas

by **Bergermeister** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:57 am

ponyboy wrote:

consider the source... have they ever gotten ANYTHING right?

by **White Helmet** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:06 am

ponyboy wrote:But *why* did serving size increase? Answer: Because we were hungrier. And why were we hungrier? Answer: Because never in the history of the human (or prehuman) race have we ever consumed carbohydrates in such quantity. Ever. It's unprecedented and an enormous mistake.

The current generation is going to be the first generation ever to die before their parents.

Firstly your assumption we are hungrier due to carbs is based on no scientific fact.

When you say we never consumed this many cars do you mean total or as a ratio? 2 very different things. I think you are picking data that will support your beliefs with out any thought towards scientific merit.

If we want to blindly interpret data the expected life expectancy since 1970 in the USA has increased from 70 to a robust 79 in 2009, so maybe all the carbs are increasing our life?

by **ponyboy** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:53 am

Great conversation.

Hunger: http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/vaop/ ... 1162a.html

Increases in life expectancy are due solely to advances in medicine.

The short answer to all of this is that we abandoned our ancestral diets very, very recently.

Look, if the whole of human experience were one year, we started farming, and therefore eating grains, about two hours and fifty five minutes ago. We started consuming white sugar in quantity only twenty one minutes ago. High fructose corn syrup seven and a half minutes ago.

Carbs were consumed by our ancestors in quantity only seasonally and only in the form of native, scrawny high fiber fruits that resemble very little modern fruits. True we might get sugar drunk on the occasional honey cache in season, but that was it. We sure as hell weren't going to take the time to grind up a grass seed and eat it.

See: http://thepaleodiet.com/download/20/

by **White Helmet** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:11 pm

Is life expectancy solely based on advances in medicine? Advances in medicine are also due to some earlier time of death cases.

I still dont see any proof you have presented that carbs caused any of obesity epidemic. Even in the article you linked the only Body fat data is on Caribou which are fairly un-human like in a number of ways specifically going living in the elements so adding fat in cold weather and undergoing seasonal mating and hormone cycles ie the rut.

by **jtstang** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:36 pm

Take it to the nutrition board, boys.

by **ponyboy** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:06 pm

White Helmet wrote:I still dont see any proof you have presented that carbs caused any of obesity epidemic.

http://www.ajcn.org/content/early/2011/ ... 0.000141v1

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15181021

Sorry, jt. I'm done.

by **The Q** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:14 pm

Does anyone know if this place is doing any business? I find it a little shocking that none of our burger-loving PonyFans have braved a trip there yet.

by **2ndandlong** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:12 pm

I just went. It was horrible. Fries were bad, burger was bad, waitresses were fat and ugly. Horrible. Don't waste your time or money. It is not even worth the schtick.

by **Scoops** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:03 am

Interesting. Talked to another friend last night who went recently, and gave a very different view. Said it's greasy as hell, and you WILL feel like you might have a heart attack when you leave, but she said it was sensational, one of those guilty pleasures. She said she had a Triple Bypass (burger) and only wanted to throw up a little when chasing her 5-year-old son out to the car.

She actually ran afterward (a few hours afterward, of course), which is how she can eat stuff like that. But she ran and lived through it. She said she won't make it a regular place on the dinner rotation, but said she "definitely" would go back at some point.

by **Peruna 2K5** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:26 pm

I went on Friday, and gotta say I agree with 2ndandlong. Burger was fine, but not worth the price tag. A single bacon cheeseburger with a coke was $11, $14 after tip. Cash only, so all the customers were running to the single atm in the store. And being forced to wear a hospital gown is one of the dumber things I've had to do in my life. Much better burgers in Dallas for the price (or even less of the price).

by **SMUguy** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:49 pm

WTF? A hospital gown? What for?

by **2ndandlong** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:07 am

SMUguy wrote:WTF? A hospital gown? What for?

Weak schtick

by **Monkeystang** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:24 pm

A hospital gown. That is so stupid.

by **ItalianStallion** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:40 pm

I had it for lunch today and have to agree with the previous posters, this place is a massive fail. The burger was average at best. I was expecting a massive greasy burger with cheese oozing off the sides, but got an over cooked burger with a piece of cheese slapped before it was brought out to my table. The fries were ok at first but could only eat about a third of the order. The fries cooked in pure lard left a fatty film feeling on the roof of my mouth for hours. As someone else noted earlier I also feel like I'm about to have a heart attack.

It's true they make you wear a gown, which I had to throw a Larry David esque tantrum to get out of wearing. Waitresses, ah I've seen hotter on campus. There were maybe three tables when I was there, which was during the peak of the lunch hour.

As expected, this is only a bit, and should not be taken seriously. Not worth the trip.

by **Peruna 2K5** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:30 pm

2ndandlong wrote:
SMUguy wrote:WTF? A hospital gown? What for?

Weak schtick

My thoughts exactly. I felt like a fool, should have up and left right there