Miami Heat-- the News Gets Worse

[Hoop Fan]

If all accurate, and doesnt seem hard to prove, that sounds like the common sense definition of lack of Institutional control. They almost have to come down very [deleted] this because of optics of the former AD who presided over much of this heading infractions committee. He apparently was blood thirsty on the USC case. Nothing worse than a phony hypocrit.

[reddevil]

Has anyone seen Shawnbrey's name mentioned?

[skyscraper]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... th-penalty

Good column by Pat Forde. Some details:

In 2003, the Hurricanes were put on probation and docked scholarships for baseball infractions. In the Committee on Infractions report, it defined Miami then as a repeat violator, which means that it committed major violations while already on probation for previous violations -- that would be the famed 1995 case that involved a widespread, multisport Pell Grant scam and other shenanigans. The Canes' football program got a one-year bowl ban in that case.

In the 2003 case, the NCAA noted that the baseball violations occurred in the years immediately following the '95 ruling and criticized the school for failing to increase its monitoring of its programs. The 2003 case also contains this paragraph:

"As required by NCAA legislation for any institution involved in a major infractions case, Miami shall be subject to the provisions of NCAA Bylaw 19.6.2.3, concerning repeat violators, for a five-year period beginning on the effective date of the penalties in this case, February 27, 2003."

According to Yahoo!, Nevin Shapiro was going full throttle from 2002 to 2010. Which means, if the allegations are proved, Miami was breaking rules left and right while on probation.

That would seemingly make Miami a repeat-repeat violator, basically operating outside the rules continuously in one program or another from the early '90s through last year. And if the NCAA has been directed to step up the punishments of cheaters, a repeat-repeat violator would seem to be in really-really big trouble.

The only difference from the '80s is that the cheating contagion has thus far skipped the Southwest. That was ground zero back then.
The retro movement appears to be ongoing on the gridiron. Once the embarrassment reached a saturation point in the '80s, the establishment reacted. School presidents got active, academic reforms such as Proposition 48 were instituted, and the NCAA dished out the ultimate deterrent, the so-called death penalty. SMU is still recovering from that infamous 1987 shutdown.

[well travelled pony]

Miami should be ducking. Again, really, when a program runs into trouble, does anyone really belive that those in a position of importance at a school didn't know?? The levels of hipocrasy in the ncaa is unbelievable. ncaa=b.s+fraud. miami simply following the lead of florida's SEC schools. As Charles Barkley once said, if you aren't cheating, then you aren't trying hard enough. Go Ponies.

[35straight]

Has anyone seen Shawnbrey's name mentioned?

This was one of the first things I thought of. NC2A is going to pin this whole thing on us for sure.

[Oldmins]

--Here in Miami on business, found the local sport channel, home of the "U". Local talk show is tearing into everyone involved.

The President of the University is shown in several pictures with booster.

The University was forced to return all financial gifts to booster's creditors (clawback on Ponsey scheme.

Players maybe forced to face clawback claims personally.

This is the third major U of M alumn and donor in five years caught in Ponsey scheme--The U has had to face this previously with large donors.

Former AD, now Chairman of NCAA compliance committee up to his eyeballs in it. Several pictures, dinners and outings with donor.

A fight between booster and others in the press box during a game was patched up by AD and President years ago.

University president and atheltic director did nothing but protect the booster and
never attempted to seperate the booster from the players--his presence was obvious to anyone close to the program

University compliance officer made a vigorous written report several years ago and to the then AD and current President together they did nothing!

New Missouri basketball coach also directly involved in picture and expense receipts, former Miami basketball coach may loose new job before he coaches first game at Missouri.

No one, absoultely no one is denying the story of the convicted felon and 72 players that benefited--10-11 currently on the roster. Hard to believe they are considering his story credible.

Death penalty discussed, but the U will probably not get it! The actually used the term, "probably will not get it" But, some actually felt it was possible

Apparently everyone at the top of the university is implicated by not seperating the booster from the players--everyone seems to have known what was going on. I have the sense the Miami is a much smaller city than Dallas in terms of what's going on, whose in the clubs, what players are up to, etc.

This was all in 15 minutes of listening to the radio show. [deleted] Vitale is calling for everyone's head at the school--except of course, John Caliperi the former Memphis and now U of K basketball coach and his close friend.

Hey MEX, good information, but if you'll permit me to pick a nit, isn't it PONZI scheme? And if you're going to use the word several times in one posting, try spelling it "sepArate", OK?

[leopold]

Randy Shannon was known to be the point guy handing out the cash when he was an assitant with the school years ago, well before he ever became head coach. NONE of this should be shocking news.

I'm sorry, how does Calipari figure into all this?

[RednBlue11]

shawnbrey could be one of those 30+ players who were fingered but can't be proved to have participated, or not...but keep in mind that many of the things Shapiro did took place while they were HS seniors...

which begs the question, in light of hos USC was treated, do the programs those players ended up have to at least vacate wins because of signing and playing players who were technically ineligible

[Mexmustang]

OLMINS--your right, but I only had a few minutes to jot down what I heard before running to a dinner meeting. I corrected "Ponzi" later.
The most interesting part of the program was the revelation that the university's compliance officer did write a report that the then AD (and current head of the NCAA compliance committee) and current univeristy president ignored.

[EastStang]

I saw an interview with the SI college football beat reporter on CNN this morning. He said, the NCAA will cripple but not kill the program. Too many TV contracts and businesses that depend upon Miami football, blah, blah, blah. He remarked huge scholarship limits, 3-4 year bowl ban and some forfeits. Also, I suspect, the ACC is quietly lobbying not to pull the plug since its schools like to travel to Miami to recruit South Florida. No games equals fewer contacts.

[ponyte]

shawnbrey could be one of those 30+ players who were fingered but can't be proved to have participated, or not...but keep in mind that many of the things Shapiro did took place while they were HS seniors...

which begs the question, in light of hos USC was treated, do the programs those players ended up have to at least vacate wins because of signing and playing players who were technically ineligible

Looks like you just found the connection the NCAA needs to punish Miami by giving the Death Penalty to SMU...again!

[NickSMU17]

5 years probation...10 scholarships a year. postseason ban for 2....forfeit wins....


NCAA is cookie cutter and weak....

[Mitch McConnell]

This guy makes Sherwood Blunt look like a choir boy.

[jtstang]

Miami's case has all of the trimmings of "lack of instituional control" which of course is the stated condition precedent for "death panalty" sanctions. But as I understand it that sanction is discretionary, not mandatory. The reality of it all is that the only precedent, the SMU case, has additional factors that I am not aware are present here. I have not heard the there is any Florida polictical aspect to this case (as there was with Bill Clements and SMU). Has there been any such allegation? And were they already on probation, like SMU was, for the same type of conduct? Not sure about that one either. There will be no death penalty, nor is there any grounds to complain, unless these additional factors are present in the Miami case.

[RGV Pony]

Miami's case has all of the trimmings of "lack of instituional control" which of course is the stated condition precedent for "death panalty" sanctions. But as I understand it that sanction is discretionary, not mandatory. The reality of it all is that the only precedent, the SMU case, has additional factors that I am not aware are present here. I have not heard the there is any Florida polictical aspect to this case (as there was with Bill Clements and SMU). Has there been any such allegation? And were they already on probation, like SMU was, for the same type of conduct? Not sure about that one either. There will be no death penalty, nor is there any grounds to complain, unless these additional factors are present in the Miami case.

how about if a former presidential cabinet member became aware of the goings on, which began a year after she became president of the school, and chose to turn the other cheek? I dont know if that's the case but it sounds like a lot of these things were very thinly veiled