NBC: Baylor - Both Sides of Its Mouth

by **SMU89** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:41 pm

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co ... -its-mouth

by **SMU 86** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:44 pm

Thanks for the link.

by **mustangxc** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:49 pm

Great article, thanks for sharing!!!

by **well travelled pony** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:11 pm

Nice little piece. I love that it is not being lost on anybody that baylor is acting two faced. I greatly dislike ut, but still would love to play them just to have any chance to beat them again. baylor deserves to rot should it happen that baylor is left in the dust.

Go Ponies!

by **ponyscott** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:15 pm

Baylor is a disgrace and should be embarrassed.

by **Water Pony** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:40 pm

Baylor is acting appropriately. A&M (and Oklahoma) departure will not only damage BU, but KS, KSU, MO and ISU, as well. I give them credit for challenging these unilaterally moves and predatory intentions by other conferences. Taken to it's logical conclusion, Big 12 disappears and those without BCS home need to fend for themselves. We would feel no different.

The fact they got invited to the Big 12, when SWC collapsed, should not be held against them.

by **well travelled pony** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:45 pm

I don't blame them for what they do now, but it does reek of hipocrasy that when the SWC was broken, baylor didn't bat an eye. I only dislike the spin they put on their situation now. If they were so concerned aabout regional rivalries, why didn't they cry foul back then??

Go Ponies!

by **NavyCrimson** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:51 pm

Water - don't forget. Baylor 'wasn't' invited to the lil12. Ma 'Barker' Richards forced the 12 into taking them. 'If you take the state schools, you have to take Baylor.'

by **Charleston Pony** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:07 pm

Baylor would be a nice addition to CUSA. Realistically, the no more belong in a BCS football conference than Duke, Vandy, etc...

by **Wuba** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:27 pm

CoxMustangFan wrote:
Water Pony wrote:Baylor is acting appropriately. A&M (and Oklahoma) departure will not only damage BU, but KS, KSU, MO and ISU, as well. I give them credit for challenging these unilaterally moves and predatory intentions by other conferences. Taken to it's logical conclusion, Big 12 disappears and those without BCS home need to fend for themselves. We would feel no different.

The fact they got invited to the Big 12, when SWC collapsed, should not be held against them.

WP, I'm going to have call BS on you here. Forcing, by threat of litigation, schools to stay in a toxic conference isn't "acting appropriately". The fact is, no respectable conference wants them and they know it! The Missouri Valley would be too good for them.

I also disagree that "KU, KSU, MO, and ISU" would suffer. KU and MO, no way. KSU and ISU, perhaps. Baylor, KSU, and ISU get what the market will bring, which is very little. This isn't communist Russia, time to let new players at the table.

Baylor has been a green and gold fly in the ointment for FAR too long, and it's time to send them packing. They need to stop their crying and shut their mouth. They're not making any more friends at this point, and thereâ€™s no Governor to bail them out this time.

Aren't they just refusing to surrender their right to sue rather than threatening to sue? To me those are different things.

by **Wuba** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:50 pm

CoxMustangFan wrote:
Wuba wrote:Aren't they just refusing to surrender their right to sue rather than threatening to sue? To me those are different things.

At this stage, yes. However, Baylor has had that shot in the chamber the whole time, which is what prompted the condition by the SEC in the first place. So essentially, Baylor loaded their gun and then the SEC said put your gun down (and Baylor said "no").

Sticking to that analogy, why should the SEC be able to tell a school in another conference what to do? Seems like Baylor is perfectly within their rights to keep their gun in their hand.

by **Water Pony** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:01 pm

I agree and for selfish reasons, we need Big 12 to survive. Our chances go up with a Big 12 in need of a couple of quality programs. If the Big 12 evaporates, our ability to go BCS is reduced. Texas schools are divided up by PAC 12, BE and SEC. Perhaps Big 10, as well. I don't like our chances without a SW-centric BCS conference.

by **Topper** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:12 pm

Ken Starr = 0. BU is nothing but a glorified vacation bible school. Academics on par with the likes of BYU.

by **RednBlue11** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:34 pm

this is all the have and they will milk everything they can from it to their ultimate death in irrelevance

by **Big Hoss** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:47 pm

well travelled pony wrote:I don't blame them for what they do now, but it does reek of hipocrasy that when the SWC was broken, baylor didn't bat an eye. I only dislike the spin they put on their situation now. If they were so concerned aabout regional rivalries, why didn't they cry foul back then??

Go Ponies!

Bingo! I have had that same argument to a couple of Baylor alums this week.