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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby lwjr » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:00 pm

ericdickerson4life wrote:The BE is in trouble any way you want to look at the situation. Two members just left, two more want out, TCU is now reconsidering joining. The B12 looks like they may take several members. Dead conference walking! Bring out your dead!


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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby PonyKai » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:00 pm

What if UConn & Rutgers go ACC, taking them to 16. Clemson goes SEC, lowering it to 15. USF goes ACC back to 16. ACC 16, BE 0, SEC 14, Big 12 14.

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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby ericdickerson4life » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:04 pm

Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:What if UConn & Rutgers go ACC, taking them to 16. Clemson goes SEC, lowering it to 15. USF goes ACC back to 16. ACC 16, BE 0, SEC 14, Big 12 14.

Yeah, yeah, I know three steps ahead...


Yep. The BE as we know it is dead. Missouri can't kill the B12, only UT and OU can do that.

The BE may reform like Stallion has posted, but that is essentially a new conference. Only the BE in name. Actually looks like a pretty good conference. Could rival the current BE in a couple of years.
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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby LHS81 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:13 pm

Even if they don't want to move up from FCS, can we still get Texas Southern's band. I want to see SMU's band "get down."
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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby well travelled pony » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:20 pm

lwjr wrote:
ericdickerson4life wrote:The BE is in trouble any way you want to look at the situation. Two members just left, two more want out, TCU is now reconsidering joining. The B12 looks like they may take several members. Dead conference walking! Bring out your dead!


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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby ericdickerson4life » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:28 pm

Damn it! I'm such and idiot. I throw out the Monty Python line and then can't even recognize when it gets thrown back at me!! Sometimes I wonder...
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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby GRGB » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:05 pm

SMU 46 wrote:
ericdickerson4life wrote:The BE is in trouble any way you want to look at the situation. Two members just left, two more want out, TCU is now reconsidering joining. The B12 looks like they may take several members. Dead conference walking! Bring out your dead!


So if the Big East implodes and if TCU goes back to MWC... does the MWC get the Big East's AQ BCS spot?

Mwc conf is ranked higher than big east, and only slightly behind acc and big10
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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby Charleston Pony » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:01 pm

bottom line in all of this is that TCU is thinking "what in the world have we done?"
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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby Charleston Pony » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:10 pm

until it's done, TCU is having some anxious moments
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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby MustangSTATS » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:19 pm

The Big East has BCS status. The top schools of MWC and CUSA want to have BCS status and shed the light weights (Rice, etc). Instead of merging MWC and CUSA which would include lots of dead weight, the best can simply move to the Big East. This would be the best way to ensure BCS status without the too much dead weight and I doubt the NCAA is willing to fight the lawsuit to strip the (New) Big East of BCS status with the new level of competition remaking the Big East as a respectful football contender.

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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby Stallion » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:32 pm

South Florida may well be the Big East after this is done. I think the Big East would have a difficult time arguing they should retain AQ when only one team remains. The Big East private BB schools make sense-none of these other schools have anything in common-its time for a divorce. Everyone will be better off
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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby Charleston Pony » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:40 pm

let Missou go the the SEC

let the Big XII invite BYU, Louisville, Cincy and W. Virginia to get back to 12 members

let TCU and USF become part of the CUSA/MWC group that gains AQ status and looks like this:

MWC Pacific: Hawaii, SDSU, Fresno, Boise, UNLV, Nevada
MWC Mountain: Wyoming, Utah St, AFA, CSU, UNM, UTEP (might need to flip Utah St & Boise)

CUSA West: Tulsa, SMU, TCU, Houston, Rice, Tulane
CUSA East: USM, Memphis, UAB, ECU, UCF, USF

Marshall returns to the MAC to rekindle their regional rivalries
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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby Stallion » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:43 pm

because Marshal says No.
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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby Charleston Pony » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:26 pm

OK...Marshall says no and the current CUSA expands to 14 members by adding TCU in the west and USF in the east...or would TCU prefer to just return to the MWC with helmet in hand?
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Re: big 12 to add 5?

Postby Stallion » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:29 pm

Well since I thought USF would be the last team standing in Big East-I assumed they would be Big 12
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