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BIG MEN - What else

Postby BUS » Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:24 am

I kind of wish the button did not say NEW TOPIC but DRONE ON.

We have speed at some positions but what SMU really needs is 14 BIG MEN in this recruiting class. That leave plenty to fill in for depth at other positions.

I pray that 4 or five of them could be JUCO BIG MEN.

Coach Bennet and his staff have started off well, very well in my book. We have three BIG MEN committed along with some other players.

Very Good job when we are coming off an 0-12 season. Recruits see his passion and that the team IS getting better. Go C-USA and Go Mustangs.
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Postby Sasser Rules » Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:36 am

Some folks might get tired of your message, but you're right on.
LOTS of big fellas, please.
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Postby Johnny Rock » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:26 pm

The problem is most of the talent in the state has already verbally commited to other schools. SMU will be stuck, again, getting the left overs and rejects from other schools. There is a reason we are one of the worst teams in Division 1-A and have been for years. Question? Why does North Texas get more talent than SMU when SMU has better facilities, a better campus, a better academic reputation, and is in a better conference? Answer that one.....
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Postby BUS » Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:47 pm

An administration that for the past 18 years wanted a good football team.

That's your answer.

SMU has turned the corner and we are getting recruits. Can you tell me how many 2 or 3 star recruits UNT has today?
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Postby Johnny Rock » Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:00 pm

How can you say SMU has turned the corner? We got humiliated by Rice who gave up 70 the week before. We were not competitive against our main rival, TCU. OSU, in usual fashion, blew us out. SMU is very fortunate they got Tx Tech the first game and not now. We are on the verge of another losing season and have only one win to date. We did not win a game last year. Is that turning the corner? You also state we are getting good recruits. Compared to who? Not our competition. TCU has outrecruited us for the past ten years. Baylor gets better recruits. Tulsa got better recruits last year and beat us out on many 'local' recruits who Bennett said were a priority. And now North Texas is outrecruiting us. Remember, many of our WAC competition promotes and allows Division 1-A transfers and JUCOs. You can name two and three stars all you want but reality is our competition is getting better players across the board. SMU has been and will continue to be a failure in football until the administration does something about it. Period. End of story. That is reality. You can change conferences, coaches, and marketing all you want. You can even build a new stadium and facilities. It does not mean a damn thing until you change the admission policies to compete on a level playing field. SMU has not done this and until they do....more losing seasons and one sided games.
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Postby PK » Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:18 pm

Jeez, by your rationale Nebraska's not getting any decent recruits either. Who would have thought... And then there's the Cowboys. Looks like they need to step up their recruiting too.
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Postby BUS » Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:22 pm

Man, you have been watching to many Presidential debates.....
Dude.

The question was and still is. Who and what are UNT's recruits - TODAY

At least we agree about administration. Olive Branch.
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Postby HFvictory » Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:15 pm

UNT had one of the countries top RBs in last year's class-Jemario Thomas.
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Postby Stallion » Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:14 pm

That's right HFVictory-Thomas was a Rivals 4 star who was not qualified on signing date- and just as I said on signing date on this forum, Thomas would an absolute STEAL for any school who could wait to see if he qualified. Many schools backed off-NTSU as they have done for several of its top recruits over the last few years did not. Thomas ran for something like 250 last week and I believe he has or came close to another 200 yard performance. He may have unsteated the No. 1 returning statistically running back in the Nation in Cobbs who was redshirted after injury. Once again cutting corners are how NTSU and others do it. Corners we seem unwilling to cut.
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Postby jtstang » Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:22 am

Stallion wrote:That's right HFVictory-Thomas was a Rivals 4 star who was not qualified on signing date- and just as I said on signing date on this forum, Thomas would an absolute STEAL for any school who could wait to see if he qualified.

Tell me how this works. If the guy is not qualified on signing date, then what? You offer him a scholarship anyway and hold your breath? What if he eventually fails to qualify? Do you then lose that scholarship completely? I'm really unclear on the practicalities of recruiting non-qualifiers and partial qualifiers. (Which Stallion does not advocate anyway.) Thanks in advance.
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Postby ponyboy » Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:23 pm

Fascinating. Now someone answer Bus' question about how UNT is doing this year versus how we're doing.
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Postby HFvictory » Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:21 pm

ponyboy wrote:Fascinating. Now someone answer Bus' question about how UNT is doing this year versus how we're doing.


Thought he asked about recruits, sorry.

jtstang, the recruit actually has until the day classes start to get qualified, if he does not the school doesn't lose the 'ship but usually the options arelimited until the next signing period (You could use for a walk-on, transfer, unsigned recruit, hold for next signing date, etc.). If a recruit doesn't get qualified he has several choices: a lower division school, JUCO, prep school, etc.
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Postby ponyboy » Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:42 pm

HFvictory wrote: Thought he asked about recruits, sorry.


He did ask about recruits. This year's commitments SMU vs. UNT.
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Postby HFvictory » Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:15 pm

ponyboy wrote:
HFvictory wrote: Thought he asked about recruits, sorry.


He did ask about recruits. This year's commitments SMU vs. UNT.


Isn't it a little early to be comparing 2005 classes?
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Postby Stallion » Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:44 pm

that's the point Ponyboy-as usual you just don't get it. NTSU never gets ANY commitments until very late in the recruiting season since they are rarely anybody's first choice. And yet by cutting the corners by taking a chance on a kid will get a late qualifying SAT score, or pass a late core class, or waiting until fall to see if he qualifies, or taking him as a partial or non-qualifier, or getting the kid to transfer from a Division 1A school, or allowing a kid's JUCO transfers to count, NTSU is able to field a more competitive team than dear ole SMU. So keep counting those recruiting rankings because as I've most prominently stated they tell only half the story about how MOST especially non-BCS programs are built.
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