Community Reading (Dallas Observer Story)

[Sir Trolls A Lot]

Fellas,

Believe it or not, it looks like this administration does not "get it" in areas other than sports. Read this story, for those with daughters, it will alarm you!

http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/cu ... ature.html

[ClassOf81]

Yes, that's an alarming story (that has nothing to do with sports, by the way.)

But you're going to use this to blast the administration for "not getting it?" A university has a thuggish student? Stop the presses! Newsflash: there are bad apples at every school in the country, and in every group as large as a college student body, whether it's relatively small like SMU's or a large state school.

We all realize your sole purpose for coming to this site is to blast SMU and everything/everyone associated with the school. What do you get out of it? Is it fun? If so, that's really, really sad. You need more to do.

[Sir Trolls A Lot]

You're the one talking about the "fabulous" Georgetown.

You obviously accept "date rape," some of the rest of us with daughters think it is terrible when the adminstration does nothing about it. The Good Lord knows many of us did some crazy things in college, but the administration should do more to stop people from selling drugs and raping in the dorms.

Yes, that's an alarming story (that has nothing to do with sports, by the way.)

But you're going to use this to blast the administration for "not getting it?" A university has a thuggish student? Stop the presses! Newsflash: there are bad apples at every school in the country, and in every group as large as a college student body, whether it's relatively small like SMU's or a large state school.

We all realize your sole purpose for coming to this site is to blast SMU and everything/everyone associated with the school. What do you get out of it? Is it fun? If so, that's really, really sad. You need more to do.

[Laura Bush Lover]

Sir Trolls,
The link you provided made me sick to my stomach but I'm glad you posted it. To think that a crime syndicate could take root in the "God Quad" is truly amazing. What is even more amazing is the amount of money that poor girl probably got from our beloved alma mater. Back in my day, SMU police would always look the other way on many serious issues for fear of bad publicity for the university. I guess things have not changed. It's truly a disgusting story of incompetence.
To tie the story into football, imagine if this sad case had never occured. Not only would that girl still be a member of the SMU community, but the university could have put the money from her settlement into bringing a program-changing coach like Barry Switzer or Larry Coker to the Hilltop.

<-this is how my university has made me feel today

[stang_fan]

This guy fooled the FBI and the British police for quite a while. I wouldn't be so [deleted] the University. I am extremely saddened by the story of Meghan, but as a psychology student and possible future Forensic Psychologist, I have an idea of what the University was dealing with. If you'd like a good read and an example of what they may have been dealing with read Without Conscience. I can't recall the name of the author.

[EastStang]

I could probably find you half a dozen stories about dude like him that have crept in and out of college campus' over the years. There is a word for him sociopath and with today's internet surfing, computer gaming, hacking world, more and more introverted kids with delusional fantasies are being produced. I saw a report recently that absolutely shocked me. Less than 80% of all children under the age of 15 had ever set foot in a church. Only 7% attended church regularly. What that means is that we are putting out a generation without any moral compass at all other than how many heads can you cut off on a violent computer game. This is the tip of the iceberg my friends. There will be more and more of these stoies and years to come I'm afraid. I'm off my soap box now.

[abezontar]

By 80% of all children, do you mean the world population of children under the age of the 15, only the US population of kids under 15, what exactly do you mean? Depending on what population we are talking about those statistics can be very shocking or not shocking at all. I wouldn't necessarily assume that the church is the cure all for teaching morals to our youth, just look at the recent problems with the Catholic Church (which can happen in any church). What it really boils down to is that the kids usually reflect whatever values the parents have, so you should be just as concerned with what the current generation of parents are setting up as ideals.

[EastStang]

80% of US children (and by the word church, that includes Mosques, Temples, synagogues, and other houses of worship). That's why it was shocking. And Judeo-Christian values (the Catholic Church still teaches that pedofilia is a sin, even if there are "sinning priests") are pretty good values to teach children. At least they learn what guilt is.

[SMUFan]

You're the one talking about the "fabulous" Georgetown.

You obviously accept "date rape," some of the rest of us with daughters think it is terrible when the adminstration does nothing about it. The Good Lord knows many of us did some crazy things in college, but the administration should do more to stop people from selling drugs and raping in the dorms.

Yes, that's an alarming story (that has nothing to do with sports, by the way.)

But you're going to use this to blast the administration for "not getting it?" A university has a thuggish student? Stop the presses! Newsflash: there are bad apples at every school in the country, and in every group as large as a college student body, whether it's relatively small like SMU's or a large state school.

We all realize your sole purpose for coming to this site is to blast SMU and everything/everyone associated with the school. What do you get out of it? Is it fun? If so, that's really, really sad. You need more to do.

Nowhere did ClassOf81 say anything about accepting date rape or anything else mentioned and described in that story. He also expressed concern ("alarm") over the story, which is, of course, awful to read about -- I'm sure everyone realizes that, whether or not they have children. He and EastStang simply pointed out that this sort of thing happens at numerous schools across the country. That's an indictment of the society in which we live, not a commentary on the validity of the story or gravity of the students involved therein.

And I'm not sure where the Georgetown reference came from, but what's the beef about there? It's an excellent school.

[stang_fan]

Your report was probably from some cooky end times ministry or something. That is absolutely ridiculous. This country still says God in the pledge of allegiance. I guarantee you your source was wrong. You might want to look into it. Over 80% of the population in america still calls itself protestant, catholic or jewish. Maybe kids don't go as often, but they've definitely been. Besides, the more people go to church and believe that is critical to be a good person the more they will believe they should take everything in their holy book literally. I think all members of Al-Qaida attend their mosques regularly. Southern Baptist members of the Klu Klux Klan did and still go to church regularly. The Klu Klux Klan never would have had a good reason to hate people based on skin color if they had not used the Bible in a terrible way. Who knows. Maybe going to church is not the answer. The reason there are more psychopaths (not sociopaths, there is a difference)is because the population is much larger than "the good old days." Stop with your armageddon bullcrap.

[bubba pony]

I'm missing something, Bruce the father is a Lawyer. suspects knows something about the legal system even if he is a divorce lawyer.
they go to the SMU police and administration for action and after a long trying period to convince them to react he continues to go down that route. go to the real police who see punks like this everyday. go to the FBI who don't want terrorist to have access to fake driver licenses.
I'm a father with a daughter. If I got no action at one avenue I go to another.

anyway it's a sad story and if SMU had to pay up it proved incompetence leadership within the school, that is why there is a penalty. let's hope SMU learns how to deal with this in the future.

[Sir Trolls A Lot]

You're right, it does happen at other schools in the country. It is probably pretty common at Sam Houston State, Southwest Texas St., and Arkansas St. I hold our school to a higher standard than those schools, and I see that you vehemently disagree. However, you should know that being like everyone else is not always for the best.

He and EastStang simply pointed out that this sort of thing happens at numerous schools across the country.