Ohio State - Shut Them Down!!!

[Dwan]

The thing about the dealth penalty that kills me the most is really not the preformance of our teams the last 16 years, it that the NCAA used us as an example and have never used the death penalty again. With Maurice Clarrett now admitting what took place at Ohio State it is clearly apparent that the death penalty does not scare anyone because the NCAA never intends to use it again. They need to sack up and shut down ohio state, this is a joke!!

[Thumper]

They should, but they never will. Too many people make too much money off that program.

[EastStang]

This would be their 4th major infraction. They might not be death penalty eligible. They came off probation for the basketball scandel in 1997 which is more than 6 years ago. However, the violations would have occurred within six years of the termination of a probation. So, they will probably get the usual wrist slap, lose some scholarships. The big question would be whether they would make Clarett ineligible for the National Championship season. If so, they might have to give back their trophy to... drum roll... Miami???

[Dwan]

didn't they have mahor violations with their basketball program that forced the coach to resign last year. This is prob the best case to give a program the death penalty since the michigan basketball scandal with the fab 5. However, even if they did get shut down, which they won't, they would rebuild in two years with JC players and Prop 48 players and be back in the Rose Bowl in 5-6 years.

[MustangStealth]

My understanding is that major violations have to occur within a 5 year period in the same program. So basketball probation doesn't count against football infractions.

[Sir Trolls A Lot]

The thing about the dealth penalty that kills me the most is really not the preformance of our teams the last 16 years, it that the NCAA used us as an example and have never used the death penalty again. With Maurice Clarrett now admitting what took place at Ohio State it is clearly apparent that the death penalty does not scare anyone because the NCAA never intends to use it again. They need to sack up and shut down ohio state, this is a joke!!

I have heard from a friend in law school there that they began to clean up that program before this story broke. They have been quick to suspend players (i.e. Lydell Ross). Also, they have not been taking any chances with recruits. Due to those restrictions, it has become a boring program with a superstar kicker.

[Hoop Fan]

the truth is that the NCAA could find serious, repeated violations almost anywhere, anytime they choose to look. That goes for Ohio State, Michigan, Tennessee, Texas, you name it. Hell, Baylor never would have been outed had Carlton Dotson not flipped out completely. Its all a game of cat and mouse and selective investigation and punishment. Form over substance. You can cheat, as long as you apologize in the right way. More often, major programs just conveniently don't get investigated unless a bomb falls.

[EastStang]

Actually any violation in any sport within the prescribed time period after a major violation is enough to cause the death penalty. The idea is that in a case of lack of institutional control, you don't want a school rolling the boosters from sport to sport without suffering consequences.

[MustangStealth]

I just looked it up and you are correct. The second major violation does not have to be in the same sport as the first major violation.