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Postby SMUCox00 » Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:21 am

Man there are some funny things in this thread. First of all the only thing Switzer knows about SMU is missing out on Eric Dickerson (always answers as him being the one recruit he wanted at OU but never got). Switzer isn't coming back to football, he's enjoying just being part of the Sooner Nation and Stoops enjoys having him around.

The funny things were people on here saying that even if Switzer did want to come back and coach they wouldn't want him. How can you not want a top 5 college coach. The guy won 3 national championships and went to 2 more championship games, that's more then 95% of the coaches that have ever coached in D-1. Yea you keep bringing up the scandals, but take a look at football, it's everywhere. All the florida school, texas, aTm, lsu, and even Saint Tom Osborne with his wife beating running backs was getting into hot water before he retired. Oh yea, there was also this school in the 80's that got busted too, can't remember who they were though.... :|

Notice the trend, ncaa only goes after top 10 teams because it's more high profile. It's obvious there are still corruption in ncaa football.....
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Postby SMUCox00 » Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:24 am

WildBillPony wrote:As Dale Hansen once so eloquently stated:

"When you combine the coaching smarts of a Jimmy Johnson and the character of a Chan Gailey, you get Tom Landry.

When you combine the coaching smarts of a Chan Gailey and the character of a Jimmy Johnson, you get.........Barry Switzer.


and Dale Hansen is the all knowing football guru. :roll: Just a loser texan that's still sour about the beatings that Oklahoma put on texas under Switzer. Soon he'll probably start talking smack about Stoops because he's resumed the beatings.....
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Postby EastStang » Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:39 am

Look we've gotten the death penalty, OU never did. Perhaps in this new NCAA enforcement environment, we can get away with a wrist slap for cheating, but our administration will never allow that to happen again. So, Switzer has a reputation of not playing by the rules. If we were to hire him, we would be under the NCAA microscope, especially if we started beating the Texas A&M's of the world. Switzer is still Switzer and our administration is not going to go there.
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Postby Really Fat Guy » Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:16 pm

Gentlemen,

It's obvious that a change must be made but that many of my fellow ponyfans are divided on who the best man is to be our new head coach. I think it is undeniable that next season we need to have a head coach that can make an immediate impact on recruiting and media relations around DFW, North Texas and the region. My personal choice would be for Barry Switzer. He is undeniably a great coach and recruiter and would certianly bring SMU to a new level of greatness. Some of you are opposed to him for reasons I disagree with, but that's the point of this board - to discuss and occasionally disagree. Who would you all like to see? This is my list of people we can get who could make the changes we need to finally emerge from this desert of despair and make our run back to greatness.

1. Barry Switzer (possible AD candidate)
2. Tom Osborne
3. Steve Spurrier
4. Rick Neuheisel
5. Larry Coker (obviously he's a long shot. but it's my understanding that he has grown bored sitting at the top of his profession and is looking for a new challenge - to bring a botton-tier program to the top of the rankings)
6. Bob Simmons (brought Okla. State to new heights and consistent wins over OU. While he couldn't take him to the next step, Simmons was able to create the momentum that OSU has ridden over the past couple years to its current #19 ranking under Les Miles.
7. Mack Brown (Do you really think he'll be back at UT next year?)
8. Terry Bowden

I know some of my fellow posters will once again beat a dead horse and yell about money or some other red herring. Wake up people! We're talking about SMU here. My education cost around $100,000 and I would gladly see a bit of it diverted so we could actually get a decent head coach and a winning program on the field at Ford Stadium. It's time our universtiy got some bal*s and did what it takes to make the Mustangs a viable football program. *hit or get off the pot, gentlemen.
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Postby Water Pony » Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:28 pm

Logic and examples are laughable. We can only assume you are in Junior High School. Man, it would be cool if Bob Stoops came to SMU. Totally awesome, dude. Or Pete Carroll, yeah the guy from southern California.

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Postby Sir Trolls A Lot » Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:31 pm

I think bringing Barry in would require a full commitment from the alumni. Based on the comments of this board, people would immediately start [deleted] about his age and health.

Here are my three names
1) Charlie Waters
2) Dave Campo
3) Butch Davis (Great Recruiter)
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Postby BrianTinBigD » Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:23 pm

Sir Trolls A Lot wrote:I think bringing Barry in would require a full commitment from the alumni. Based on the comments of this board, people would immediately start [deleted] about his age and health.

Here are my two names
1) Charlie Waters
2) Dave Campo
3) Butch Davis (Great Recruiter)


or 3 names, but who is counting :D
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Postby PonySnob » Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:00 pm

Sir Trolls A Lot wrote:I think bringing Barry in would require a full commitment from the alumni. Based on the comments of this board, people would immediately start [deleted] about his age and health.

Here are my two names
1) Charlie Waters
2) Dave Campo
3) Butch Davis (Great Recruiter)


What has Charlie Waters done to be a head coach? Wouldn't he just be another unproven assistant? Are kids in high school going to be that impressed with Super Bowl rings that are older than they are?

Dave Campo - would anybody respect him? Does he have what it takes to be a head coach in college? He sure didn't have what it takes to be a head coach in the NFL.

Butch Davis - this is a good pick but would he come to a small, losing program like ours?
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Postby Sir Trolls A Lot » Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:24 pm

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Postby Laura Bush Lover » Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:05 am

I saw this story in the paper when I was in Norman for the Nebraska game over the weekend. I'm sorry I don't have a link, but by the time I got over my hangover and got back home and on the internet, the paper had taken the story off their website in favor of game day coverage. I thought it was important enough to write it in for ya'll though.

Switzer still looking for action
By RUSSELL GIBSON
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OU legend Barry Switzer just doesn't know when to quit. The college and NFL football champion is not content to kick back at his Fifth Quarter Ranch outside of town. He misses college athletics and wants back in.
"What can I say, I love college athletics," Switzer said. "At any level, I want to be involved. I miss coaching, sure, but mostly I miss the kids."
During his career, Switzer achieved a professional status most football coaches can only dream of. Asked why he would want to get back in to the turbulent world of high profile athletics, he sums up his emotion with two words.
"Adrenelin. Challenge," he said. "I need and love both. To me, there is no rush like a college game day and there is no bigger challenge than bringing a football program to new heights."
Swizter said that he is interested in building upon his already substantial legacy. He wants to prove to the country that not only can he take a program with a storied tradition like Oklahoma to new heights, but he wants to take a team all the way - from the basement to the national championship.
"I've been looking around, making inquiries and checking things out," he said. "I know a lot of people in the NCAA and I'm trying to find my best options."
Switzer is looking for a school that he can make an immediate impact at and needs him - a school that could use the credibility his mulitiple championship rings bring and the instant buzz he would create.
Switzer's best known ties are regional, with his most famous coaching stints in Norman and Dallas. With Oklahoma's football teams generally on the rise, that sends Switzer south of the Red River.
On the question of where he'd like to go, Switzer is coy.
"I don't know yet," he said. "I want to go somewhere I could make an impact and be appreciated."
Switzer still owns property in Dallas from his Cowboys days.
If a coaching position doesn't pan out, he said he is open to options. An athletic director position is not out of the question, he said.
"I don't know much, but I know how college athletics work," he said. "I'm a good administrator and know how to make the overall program work. I'm up to the task and I'm ready to get back in."
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Postby Really Fat Guy » Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:13 pm

Don't hold your breath, LBL, if what you're hoping for is for Switzer to come here. Even if he did choose to come save our floundering program, I'm sure the frats would find some reason to protest and continue their scr*w job of our athletes.
It's a well known fact that at OU Switzer helped build momentum on campus before bringing home the championships by working with the Greek community. Sadly, SMU's Greek system is a shadow of its former self and can't be bothered to support our athletic programs.
Fraternities would prefer to sit inside their columned mansions sipping mint juleps and sororities would rather plan Pig Runs and other activites that promote SMU's misogynist culture than get out on a Saturday afternoon and cheer for our Ponies! Surely something is wrong with this picture.
The Greek system is huge at SMU and should be playing a bigger part in aiding our return to greatness. Maybe the frats should switch houses every year. The frat with the best athletic attendance gets the best house. That would get things shakin'!
Maybe if the Greeks could show some real leadership and work to promote our athletic teams and bring men like Barry Switzer here instead of holding silly protests of the great tradition of The Boulevard we'd have more success.
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Postby Dooby » Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:36 pm

Yeah, dude. It is all the fraternities' fault. It is sooo obvious. The campus is 50% greek and when I was at SMU in the early 90's the student section was 90% greek. You can whine about the individual students' lack of support and you can whine about the fact that every sorority chick leaves homecoming after the homecoming queen is announced, but the rest of your little rant is stupid. If they aren't on their PS2's in the frat house, they'd be on their PS2's in their apartments. If it weren't for the greeks, campus life at SMU would be pathetic. I know it is a foreign concept, but mixing in a win from time to time in September would help the crowds.

I like your little communism idea though, but I think some of the fraternities that paid (or recently asked to pay) seven figures to fund part of the costs of their houses, might have a few issues with it. Just shows you don't know what you are talking about.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Postby Really Fat Guy » Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:55 pm

Dooby wrote:Yeah, dude. It is all the fraternities' fault. It is sooo obvious. The campus is 50% greek and when I was at SMU in the early 90's the student section was 90% greek. You can whine about the individual students' lack of support and you can whine about the fact that every sorority chick leaves homecoming after the homecoming queen is announced, but the rest of your little rant is stupid. If they aren't on their PS2's in the frat house, they'd be on their PS2's in their apartments. If it weren't for the greeks, campus life at SMU would be pathetic. I know it is a foreign concept, but mixing in a win from time to time in September would help the crowds.

I like your little communism idea though, but I think some of the fraternities that paid (or recently asked to pay) seven figures to fund part of the costs of their houses, might have a few issues with it. Just shows you don't know what you are talking about.


Dooby,
Your bias is obvious. I know that I'm asking a lot when I propose that Greeks show an interest in their university community. However, I think we should hold these men and women to a higher standard than simply asking them to promote "campus life" at SMU. The way I see it, attending sporting events would be an excellent way for the Greeks to enjoy themselves while helping our university. If you would prefer to see the Greek system drink itself into an irrelevant haze while our athletic programs flounder, that's your opinion Dooby, and you're certianly entitled to it. I, however, believe the men and women of the Greek system are capable of great things if prodded from their ivy covered mansions.
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Postby StangEsq » Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:15 pm

SMUCox00 wrote:and Dale Hansen is the all knowing football guru. :roll: Just a loser texan that's still sour about the beatings that Oklahoma put on texas under Switzer. Soon he'll probably start talking smack about Stoops because he's resumed the beatings.....


Actually, Hansen went to Nebraska. He's not a Texas fan.

I don't think people from Oklahoma generally have the right to call people from Texas "losers." If you don't know what i'm talking about, take a trip to Oklahoma sometime.
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Postby Dooby » Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:18 pm

I had a lot of friends in fraternities and sororities and I had a lot of friends that weren't in them as well. With very rare exception, the ones that were greek were more involved at SMU than my friends that were not in fraternities or sororities.

Your own bias is obvious. I don't know what your deal is, whether you were in the band or just a fan or whatnot, but from my perspective, the opposite was the case. The greeks cared a heck of a lot more about SMU than the non-greeks. I bet season ticket sales and alumni giving reflect it, too.

There are 6300 undergrads at SMU, and 50% are greek. Are you going to tell me that all the non-greeks are at the SMU games? Hardly. Heck, I bet the student section is still a majority greek crowd. I know it was when I was in school.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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