Oct. 21, 1989 Houston 95, SMU 21 -- NEVER FORGET
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Re: Oct. 21, 1989 Houston 95, SMU 21 -- NEVER FORGET
The UH coaches called timeout to throw to deep to the end zone, even at the end of 1st half with almost no time left and up mutliple scores. Jenkins admitted later they were trying to get Ware TDs for the Heisman votes. This is what angered Coach Gregg, ESPN and the rest of the country.
Besides you did have a few running plays with Weatherspoon in the playbook that you could have mixed in, that was part of the offense also. Instead Jenkins (because Pardee had to back peddle, blamed Jenkins when he later asked Gregg and others to forgive him when he got sick, and said it was Jenkins who called the plays) kept throwing for the endzone. Your right kids have to play like the practiced, but the coaches did not have to call the plays they did.
For those of us that were there, Houston's own fans with any sense were booing in the 4th quarter on the last 40 plus yard pass to the end zone. Several of Houston's fans apologized to us that were there, said SWC teams should not treat each other this way, and that they were sorry their coaches showed poor sportsmanship.
Besides you did have a few running plays with Weatherspoon in the playbook that you could have mixed in, that was part of the offense also. Instead Jenkins (because Pardee had to back peddle, blamed Jenkins when he later asked Gregg and others to forgive him when he got sick, and said it was Jenkins who called the plays) kept throwing for the endzone. Your right kids have to play like the practiced, but the coaches did not have to call the plays they did.
For those of us that were there, Houston's own fans with any sense were booing in the 4th quarter on the last 40 plus yard pass to the end zone. Several of Houston's fans apologized to us that were there, said SWC teams should not treat each other this way, and that they were sorry their coaches showed poor sportsmanship.
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Re: Oct. 21, 1989 Houston 95, SMU 21 -- NEVER FORGET
The Cougar High offense going for 100 and the Baylor fake punt were just disgraceful and indefensible. Should never be forgotten.
Re: Oct. 21, 1989 Houston 95, SMU 21 -- NEVER FORGET
gimme a break. we all know what went on here. do you really think we're PROUD of it?
but you seem to be PROUD of the fact that you took it to us that day. that you were able to pile it on a team full of freshmen and sophomores. notre dame called off the dogs in the second half, but i guess you would call that a sign a weakness as opposed to a some sort of sportsmanship (even though our team said they wished that they had kept trying as that was almost a bigger insult). this type of crap is exactly why they took out the margin of victory component of the computer rankings.[/quote]
I did not say I was proud of it. What's more humiliating to a player: Getting your [deleted] kicked or having another team kneel on the ball way before the appropriate time to do so or running an offense that is completely different from what that team runs in order to prevent an embarrassing outcome?
Unfortunately, margin of victory is still a factor, just not mathematically in the computer formulas. We didn't start getting any attention this year until we started hanging 70 on people. 95 points got alot of people's attention that year, alot of it negative, but Ware got some hardware because of that attention.
but you seem to be PROUD of the fact that you took it to us that day. that you were able to pile it on a team full of freshmen and sophomores. notre dame called off the dogs in the second half, but i guess you would call that a sign a weakness as opposed to a some sort of sportsmanship (even though our team said they wished that they had kept trying as that was almost a bigger insult). this type of crap is exactly why they took out the margin of victory component of the computer rankings.[/quote]
I did not say I was proud of it. What's more humiliating to a player: Getting your [deleted] kicked or having another team kneel on the ball way before the appropriate time to do so or running an offense that is completely different from what that team runs in order to prevent an embarrassing outcome?
Unfortunately, margin of victory is still a factor, just not mathematically in the computer formulas. We didn't start getting any attention this year until we started hanging 70 on people. 95 points got alot of people's attention that year, alot of it negative, but Ware got some hardware because of that attention.
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Re: Oct. 21, 1989 Houston 95, SMU 21 -- NEVER FORGET
Dear Andre,
How did that Saturday in Kyle Field work out for you?
Signed Aaron Wallace
How did that Saturday in Kyle Field work out for you?
Signed Aaron Wallace
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Re: Oct. 21, 1989 Houston 95, SMU 21 -- NEVER FORGET
That loss and that score is on SMU coaches & administrators. SMU had no business fielding a team of freshman and got exactly what they should have expected.
They should have either not played any games that season, been fully prepared to concede games at the half, or been fully prepared to take getting their asses handed to them like men...not like the crying, whining children that fill this message board.
Its amazing that 20+ years have gone by and you folks still don't get it and still wish that the clock could be turned back so UH players would stop playing hard. When the ball is snapped players should play hard...play to win...play to stop the O if they're on defense and play to score if they're on offense. Anything less is foolish. Anything less is dis-respectable to the game and all sports in general. Whats more anything less is dangerous...hell...that's how players get hurt in practice(by not putting out 100% when the guy across from them is) all the time..anybody that has played has surely heard that one.
Its not UH's fault SMU could not tackle. UH had 14 scoring drives...only one took as long as 3 minutes. One. Yet, SMU could have stopped UH from scoring at any time during the game. All that had to happen was for your coach to concede. Concede the obvious that SMU's team had no business fielding a team that day or that year. He didn't. That's not UH's fault. That's on SMU. Do we even have to go into why?
They should have either not played any games that season, been fully prepared to concede games at the half, or been fully prepared to take getting their asses handed to them like men...not like the crying, whining children that fill this message board.
Its amazing that 20+ years have gone by and you folks still don't get it and still wish that the clock could be turned back so UH players would stop playing hard. When the ball is snapped players should play hard...play to win...play to stop the O if they're on defense and play to score if they're on offense. Anything less is foolish. Anything less is dis-respectable to the game and all sports in general. Whats more anything less is dangerous...hell...that's how players get hurt in practice(by not putting out 100% when the guy across from them is) all the time..anybody that has played has surely heard that one.
Its not UH's fault SMU could not tackle. UH had 14 scoring drives...only one took as long as 3 minutes. One. Yet, SMU could have stopped UH from scoring at any time during the game. All that had to happen was for your coach to concede. Concede the obvious that SMU's team had no business fielding a team that day or that year. He didn't. That's not UH's fault. That's on SMU. Do we even have to go into why?
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Re: Oct. 21, 1989 Houston 95, SMU 21 -- NEVER FORGET
I was there. If UH wanted 100, we would have had 100. But thanks for the reminder, good times!
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Re: Oct. 21, 1989 Houston 95, SMU 21 -- NEVER FORGET
SMU's defense stayed in man to man, with tight corners, daring UH to keep throwing deep. So we did.
Notre Dame taking a knee for most of the second half was a bigger humiliation for SMU than this game.
Finally FGregg got over it and later hired John Jenkins as his HC when he was GM in the CFL. If he got over it, you guys should too.
Notre Dame taking a knee for most of the second half was a bigger humiliation for SMU than this game.
Finally FGregg got over it and later hired John Jenkins as his HC when he was GM in the CFL. If he got over it, you guys should too.
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Re: Oct. 21, 1989 Houston 95, SMU 21 -- NEVER FORGET
Coogcheese wrote:That loss and that score is on SMU coaches & administrators. SMU had no business fielding a team of freshman and got exactly what they should expected
See what we did with our 1988 football team and how that worked out in 1989. Near total attrition. Telling marginal athletes that they are going to play for a team that is only practicing their first year didn't work and they leave causing a perpetual cycle of freshman teams. SMU did the best it could and it hired a respected NFL coach. You beat up and spit on a kid two grades below you and revealed in how awesome you were.
Re: Oct. 21, 1989 Houston 95, SMU 21 -- NEVER FORGET
Kynd Tulsa Phan wrote:poor people are funny
What the hell kinda comment is this?
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Re: Oct. 21, 1989 Houston 95, SMU 21 -- NEVER FORGET
MEcoog08 wrote:Kynd Tulsa Phan wrote:poor people are funny
What the hell kinda comment is this?
valid question, sir.
Derail the Frogs!