Is Doak Walker Looking Down @ SMU With Even More Shame?

[SmooPower]

Guess you missed the part where UNT's Super Jamario ran for almost 300 yards against the Big 12 Colorado Buffalos? Probably a better team than any that La Tech's Moats has played this Fall? I think so....

La Tech has played against Auburn, Miami, Tennessee, and UTEP this fall. I would say they are all a bit better than Colorado.

[jtstang]

Here's an interesting stat regarding NT--based on their "official attendance" reported over 5 home games, they averaged just over 15,100 per game. I predict once those numbers are audited by the NCAA, we will see NT on double secret D-1 probation next year for failure to average 15k in the stadium on gameday. The downside of that is, no bowl eligibility. Looks like somebody else may go to NO next year.

I still think SMU will squeak by, but the last game surely did not help the cause.

[EastStang]

I make it a point to ignore every UNT player because UNT mostly plays teams that can't walk and chew gum at the same time. The ones that can, pretty much destroy them.

[Eddie P]

Mean Green Gem,

Were you drunk when you wrote that long-ass post? Are you truly as ignorant as your posts reveal? You are so misinformed it has actually gotten irritating. You speak volumes about yourself and your situation when in your desire to vent, you come to an SMU message board and start your [deleted]. You are truly, truly pathetic. Your logic is terrible...I'm so pissed about your attempt to use some random "TCU Insider" as a prop for your paranoid conspiracy theory. Man, get off your computer and get your [deleted] out in the real world where most people reside. Man, you have officially pissed me off. I'll admit it. If I was driving down the road and I saw you walking down the street, I might actually swerve...to splash water on you. Freaking IMBECILE.

[RGV Pony]

Somehow I think most of us were thinking what Eddie P. said.

[NTxChick]

Mean Green Gem,
If I was driving down the road and I saw you walking down the street, I might actually swerve...to splash water on you. Freaking IMBECILE.

He reminds me of the janitor who complains when he isn't invited to the corporate Christmas party even though he never missed a day of work all year.

The only problem is that SMU students think of themselves more as Parkies than citizens of Dallas. Acting like Snobby Bastards will not endear our fine school to the citizens unconnected with the Hilltop.

And yet you say that people from SMU don't have their heads up their asses? I'm sure not all of them do, my dad and uncle are SMU Alum, and my best friend goes there now, but she's amazed by the snobiness.

[jtstang]

And yet you say that people from SMU don't have their heads up their asses? I'm sure not all of them do, my dad and uncle are SMU Alum, and my best friend goes there now, but she's amazed by the snobiness.

How come your dad and uncle turned out better than you?

[NTxChick]

How come your dad and uncle turned out better than you?

Yet another example. Oh no, there's no superiority complex here.

[GUNPERUNA]

Why don't you go to the North Texas State website then? Oh yea. At North Texas State they can attend without any computer, spelling, reading, or writing knowledge.

[MeanGreenGem]

Here's an interesting stat regarding NT--based on their "official attendance" reported over 5 home games, they averaged just over 15,100 per game. I predict once those numbers are audited by the NCAA, we will see NT on double secret D-1 probation next year for failure to average 15k in the stadium on gameday. The downside of that is, no bowl eligibility. Looks like somebody else may go to NO next year.

I still think SMU will squeak by, but the last game surely did not help the cause.

jstang, you are a pompous baffoon!

To all my fans from the Hilltop I appreciate the "so SMU'ish" type responses. Fact is, jstang, I work in Fort Worth and deal with TCU alums all the time. I didn't even post the nastier stuff said from Frogs about your school. This is a family message board, right?

Attendance? Now just who is the NCAA going to catch fudging numbers when they do their audits? Do you "REALLY" want to go there with this attendance subject?

OK..............after I read one of your most ardent PF's.com fan's post that yall really only had a little over 3,000 butts in seats (no one in MG Country surprised about that BTW as this is the norm at smu); yet, yall only have 3,000 for the Nevada game? Jeez! What will the NCAA say about that when they see an aerial shot of Ford and can figure it out for themselves and that without an audit? Yet why all the constant lying about your attendance numbers at SMU football games? Not very Methodist of yall, now is it?:(

UNT attendance? We draw a little over 15,000 (real butts in seats) fans for Sun Belt games in Denton and draw 30,000 when we play the Baylors of this world at Fouts. I have a DVD of the 1990 SMU/UNT game with 23,000 in attendance with 2,000 UNT students turned away because of fire marshall regs. Fouts only seated 21,000 at that time before it was expanded.

Yet this Fall, all but 1 home game at Fouts Field were televised on ESPN+ in the Metroplex so we know we had some "stay at homers" who would have been at Fouts if our last 4 home games in Denton had been blacked out.

BTW, most of us who have been going to UNT games for a few decades felt 2 of our games this Fall were 1-2,000 fans under reported to the DMN. That is the kind of problem SMU should have instead of the other side of the coin, eh?

A new 35-40,000 Mean Green football stadium on about 200 acres of land between I35-E and I35-W which one close to the scene just this week told me will be started and finished within 2-3 years will solve our attendance problems forever because we have much larger reservoir from which to get our football fans.

BTW, we are completing now a $40 million construction project on that 200 acres now which includes an Athletic Center (which will be the future south end zone, an 800 bed Victory Hall (dorm) with a large cafeteria connecting the two.

IT'S ALL GREEN & IT'S ALL GOOD!

[Diamond Girl]

You should learn a little something about class and sportsmanship from True Colors. I think you hold a lot of resentment toward SMU from when we used to kick your butts back in the late '70s and '80s. Get over it!

[jtstang]

Yet this Fall, all but 1 home game at Fouts Field were televised on ESPN+ in the Metroplex so we know we had some "stay at homers" who would have been at Fouts if our last 4 home games in Denton had been blacked out.

Be sure to thank them when you get put on probation next year for failing to average 15k for every home game and again when you can't go to your precious Sunbelt bowl in NO next year.

BTW, most of us who have been going to UNT games for a few decades felt 2 of our games this Fall were 1-2,000 fans under reported to the DMN. That is the kind of problem SMU should have instead of the other side of the coin, eh?

Underreporting official attendance. That's one helluva strategy that UNT athletic think tank is employing. Hope it works out for 'em.

I appreciate you think I'm a pompous buffoon (you might want to audit that UNT remedial spelling class again), but all I did was calculate the average attendance (you might want to audit that UNT remedial math class again, too) as listed on UNT's official athletics website. So sorry the truth hurts. And before you spend an hour typing out one of your oh-so-terse snappy retorts, keep in mind my concerns over SMU's attendance are well documented.

[MeanGreenGem]

Yet this Fall, all but 1 home game at Fouts Field were televised on ESPN+ in the Metroplex so we know we had some "stay at homers" who would have been at Fouts if our last 4 home games in Denton had been blacked out.

Be sure to thank them when you get put on probation next year for failing to average 15k for every home game and again when you can't go to your precious Sunbelt bowl in NO next year.

BTW, most of us who have been going to UNT games for a few decades felt 2 of our games this Fall were 1-2,000 fans under reported to the DMN. That is the kind of problem SMU should have instead of the other side of the coin, eh?

Underreporting official attendance. That's one helluva strategy that UNT athletic think tank is employing. Hope it works out for 'em.

I appreciate you think I'm a pompous buffoon (you might want to audit that UNT remedial spelling class again), but all I did was calculate the average attendance (you might want to audit that UNT remedial math class again, too) as listed on UNT's official athletics website. So sorry the truth hurts. And before you spend an hour typing out one of your oh-so-terse snappy retorts, keep in mind my concerns over SMU's attendance are well documented.

Our attendance concerns are well documented as well inasmuch as we have no concerns as we have passed the NCAA's present criteria with even a full slate of home games against Sun Belt schools (and all but one of those Fouts Field games televised).

I would go as far as to challenge most non BCS Texas D1-A schools to go over 15,000 real butts in seats per home game with a similar low profile home football schedule of which most are on local TV.

[Sam I Am]

UNT meets Div. 1-A standards, but will happen to the other Sun Belt schools? You should have gone WAC to protect your standing. It is a numbers game after all.

[MeanGreenGem]

UNT meets Div. 1-A standards, but will happen to the other Sun Belt schools? You should have gone WAC to protect your standing. It is a numbers game after all.

Sam I Am, for those who don't make the NCAA attendance criteria, they will have almost a 10 year period to un-do their shortcoming after reading what an attorney on another board said about all this.

There is a probationary period for any school to right their wrong and according to the attorney, any school will have ample time to do such. I see no school in D1-A if they were on such an attendance probation whose fans would allow their school to stay on it and just do the right things to correct it.

I don't think the NCAA will have an attendance criteria in due time. One would think that a D1-A school having to have 16 men and women's sports and a 200 scholarships would be enough without an attendance criteria. Really now, how many D-1AA schools out there would even want to try to have 16 varsity sports or could even budget 200 full scholarships?:)

I am not one who wants to talk about (least of all) brag about attendance at UNT until we start reaching the kind of turnstile numbers TCU has of late.

I guess we all have to celebrate our small victories, though, and for UNT the extremely low profile 2004 home football schedule with all but one of those games on DFW TV and still having over 15K per Fouts Field game was a victory in many ways for our program; yet UNT (like I'm sure you SMU'rs would say) are a work in progress.

HONESTLY? We have no real beef with SMU other than it seems yall always seem to enjoy kicking us in the [deleted] (politically) anytime you think it will hurt our school and advance yours; even lobby against us by chosing some non Texas backwater schools at times (Ruston) that offer no competition for SMU.

Many times such a negative mode of operation can backfire and that at any level of life, not just the toy deparment of most of our lives, ie, our alma mater's varsity football programs.

The heavily SMU influenced Doak Walker Award's committee did something even natonal publications thought an abomination and that leaving Super Jamario Thomas off the list; in fact, UNT has received much positive publicity over what some local, regional and national publications and media types thinks was just an old fashioned blackballing and a snub.

All SMU has to do is just act like any Texas neighbor would in most any scenario where being neighborly would be the norm. After all, we are not talking war, peace or weapons of mass destruction with any of this college sports business now are we?

According to the North Texas Council of Goverment (NTCOG), there are 5.2 million citizens in our area which is a population center larger than that of 28 states in the USA. So FWIW, there are more than enough citizens for SMU, TCU and UNT to market for each school's respective programs. I would say only 1 of the 3 DFW schools is succeeding in that department at the moment.