Houston and Boise in

[GRGB]

The one way both can get in is for only two Top 12 teams in AQ conferences getting at-large bids..,

Follow me: (and this is by no means automatic)

6 aq champs get a bid
1 Boise or Houston gets a bid being the highest non AQ ranked in the top12
That leaves 3 at large
(only two from an aq can get bids)

Right now 3 sec, 3 b12, 2 acc, 2 pac12, plus Boise and Hou are in the top 12

As it stands going into today, sec, b12 and either p12 or acc get the 3 at large bids

But Clemson lost.

If either Stan or Oreg loses again, then p12 only has 1 top 12 team.


Depending on how far Stan or Oregon falls, there are more b12 and sec teams waiting to move up, further pushing a 2nd team from either acc or p12 down.

They'd be hard pressed to take 15 Stanford or Clemson over say #9 Boise

It prob has a better shot with Hou getting the auto bid and Boise sitting there at 9.

[mrydel]

I cannot follow all of this but I will assure you if 2 non AQ teams get in, they will play each other (see TCU/Boise). I would rather see one get in a match up with the big boys.

[95mustang]

I just don't want tcu to get another bcs bowl. Tired of it!


They won MWC today. Will that guarantee anything for them?

[FroggieFever]

TCU would go before Boise State. The rule states you have to be the winner of the conference.

If Houston loses, TCU will most likely go to a BCS bowl.

[huskerpony]

TCU would go before Boise State. The rule states you have to be the winner of the conference.

If Houston loses, TCU will most likely go to a BCS bowl.

If Houston wins though, TCU can't get a bid. They would not be the highest ranked non-AQ conference champion, and would have to be ranked in the top 12 to get an at-large bid.

[FroggieFever]

TCU would go before Boise State. The rule states you have to be the winner of the conference.

If Houston loses, TCU will most likely go to a BCS bowl.

If Houston wins though, TCU can't get a bid. They would not be the highest ranked non-AQ conference champion, and would have to be ranked in the top 12 to get an at-large bid.

You are correct (under the assumption TCU doesn't make it to the top 12, which is incredibly unlikely).

[95mustang]

So clear! At least we don't have to spend time figuring out many scenarios for us! Maybe we will have this problem next year...

[GRGB]

First of all, TCU played Boise State because of the mechanics of that years selection, not because of a conspiracy against nonAQs.

So here you go, you be each bowl:

5 games
National Champ:
Fiesta:
Sugar:
Rose:
Orange:

Rules:
National Champ game gets filled 1 vs 2
Automatic conference bowl alignments are selected.
If your bowl's auto bid conference team is taken, you get an automatic replacement before the picking of teams to fill the bowls, in the predesignated order.
Start the selection process, in predesignated order.

Before we even had a selection process, this was the result of the rules:

National Champ: Texas (B12) v. Alabama (sec)
Rose: Oregon (P10) vs. Ohio State (B10)
Sugar: (Sec replacement) vs. ___________
Fiesta: (B12 replacement) vs. _________
Orange: GaTech (Acc) vs. _________
Big East champ gets auto bid

Now, you play bowl selection committee and tell me this was a conspiracy:

Pick, in order:

Sugar: 1(Sec replacement) vs. ___________
Fiesta: 2 (B12 replacement) vs. _________
Orange: GaTech (Acc) vs. ____3_____
Sugar: 1(Sec replacement) vs. ______4_____
Fiesta: 2 (B12 replacement) vs. ____5_____


Here's your teams:

3 TCU
4 Boise
highly ranked IOWA
BIG EAST AUTO BID Cincinnati
Top 10 florida

(TCU and Boise were assured of a bid, bc if they both weren't picked, then that meant a MUCH lower ranked team out of the Top 10 would be picked - and it wasn't happening this time)

So, go for it:

This is what happened:

Sugar got the first pick - of course they picked FLORIDA
Fiesta got the second pick - they had to chose between IOWA or BOISE...hmm...no think about this, if they pick IOWA, they are looking at an IOWA vs TCU or CINCY game...interesting. So they picked BOISE, a known quantity.

Orange now take the best available: IOWA

Sugar now has to decide - do they want TCU or do they want more nearby larger CINCY...decisions decisions... CINCY

Fiesta now is left with.... TCU.

Not a conspiracy. Just the mechanics of what was left after the automatic bids and the conference affiliations were designated.
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•Alabama takes on Texas, Jan 7. at 8 p.m. ET (ABC)

•Fiesta Bowl: TCU takes on Boise State, Jan 4. at 8 p.m. ET (Fox)

• Sugar Bowl: Florida takes on Cincinnati, Jan 1. at 8:30 p.m. ET (Fox)

• Rose Bowl: Ohio State takes on Oregon, Jan 1. at 4:30 p.m. ET (ABC)

• Orange Bowl: Iowa takes on Georgia Tech, Jan 5. at 8 p.m. ET (Fox)

[GRGB]

TCU would go before Boise State. The rule states you have to be the winner of the conference.

If Houston loses, TCU will most likely go to a BCS bowl.

Well, I forgot about the conf champ bit... TCU wouldn't be in the Top 14, so they aren't going anyway - so maybe it's just Hou.

TCU has a shot at 14 I suppose. That rule was prob more to eliminate a NONAQ team that was highly ranked.

....wait wait.

The highest ranked conference champion from a non-AQ in the Top 14 gets an auto bid... but that could be HOUSTON, and Boise could still get an at large, they do not have to win their conference. But that would suck if HOU loses and Boise finished #8, and TCU wins the conference out of the top 14. No nonAQ teams get bids.

[zimo]

The rule is that the highest ranked non-AQ conference champion automatically qualifies if it is in the top 12 of the final BCS standings. However, they can still automatically qualify by ranking 13-16 as the highest ranked non-AQ champion if they rank ahead of an AQ qualifying champion. Since no Big East team is ranked in the Top 25 currently if Houston were to either lost their last regular season game and drop below TCU or lost the C-USA Championship and TCU wins out, they should climb from #19 to inside the Top 16 and automatically qualify.

[Kynd Tulsa Phan]

Its not going to matter after next Friday.

Tulsa is going to Penn State Locker Room Shower Cougar High

[GRGB]

The rule is that the highest ranked non-AQ conference champion automatically qualifies if it is in the top 12 of the final BCS standings. However, they can still automatically qualify by ranking 13-16 as the highest ranked non-AQ champion if they rank ahead of an AQ qualifying champion. Since no Big East team is ranked in the Top 25 currently if Houston were to either lost their last regular season game and drop below TCU or lost the C-USA Championship and TCU wins out, they should climb from #19 to inside the Top 16 and automatically qualify.

What he said.

Yes, and Boise could still get an at large, subject to my above analysis - that is, they are in the Top8 or so, and there are ONLY 2 AQ conferences represented in the Top12 or so with 2 teams available (i.e., Big10, ACC, Big East, and Pac12 only have 1 team in the Top 12 each, no more - leaving only the SEC and B12 to get 2 teams in the BCS...being in the higher ranked realm - it's just a logical argument. BCS bowl could reach down as far down as they wanted to bypass BOISE to grab an ACC/B10/P12 team)

[smupony94]

Its not going to matter after next Friday.

Tulsa is going to Penn State Locker Room Shower Cougar High

what happened to bad rape?

[huskerpony]

TCU would go before Boise State. The rule states you have to be the winner of the conference.

If Houston loses, TCU will most likely go to a BCS bowl.

You're insane. 10 spots: 6 for sure go to conference tie-ins. TCU will have finish better than 4 SEC, Big 12, Big 10, PAC, and ACC #2's. Won't happen, you're high.

Bama is #7, OU/OSU is #8, Stanford is #9, and ACC/Houston/Big 10 is #10. Bye bye TCU.

No, he is right. Highest ranked non-AQ champion gets an AQ bid if they are ranked higher than 16 because there is no Big East team ranked higher this year.

If Houston loses the conference championship game AND TCU gets above 16, they have to take TCU. (Nebraska lost today, and one of Michigan St. or Wisconsin has to lose another game, and Georgia probably loses at least one more. That puts them at 16 unless the computers knock them back.)

[Kynd Tulsa Phan]

Its not going to matter after next Friday.

Tulsa is going to Penn State Locker Room Shower Cougar High

what happened to bad rape?

I thought Bad Touch = Bad Rape.