Simplify the Offense

docabel · Post by **docabel** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:59 am

Why can't (or won't) Jones simplify the offense for JJMcD. If I recall correctly that is what he did for Padron 2 years ago at Houston when BLM went down, and for the next few games til he got more comfortable.

Or is the problem that he has dumbed it down already, and even those throws are beyond JJMcD's abilities?

SMU 86 · Post by **SMU 86** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:05 pm

From what I understand it takes 2 years for receivers and QB's to learn this offense. The spread is a lot simpler.

SMU_Alumni11 · Post by **SMU_Alumni11** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:06 pm

I thought it was already simple, draw play, bubble screens, then a few short pass plays. No PA or deep pass routes really. I figure its so simple that the other team's defensive coord just has to pick a few plays and even he doesnt pick the right one he still wins.

RGV Pony · Post by **RGV Pony** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:08 pm

I think we already have. Lots of plays that we saw previously, dont see at all anymore.

Someone find the play action/rollout that we ran right after Sterling's interception vs TCU last year. That play would help us out a LOT in the red zone. Same play, if they dont throw to I think it's Haynes or whomever the TE is, there is another option with a guy running wide open downfield.

Wayyy too complex a play this year I guess.

JasonB · Post by **JasonB** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:10 pm

It has already been significantly simplified in order to adjust to JJ's physical limitations.

mr. pony · Post by **mr. pony** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:56 pm

Use San Jose State's offense.

sbsmith · Post by **sbsmith** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:42 pm

docabel wrote:Why can't (or won't) Jones simplify the offense for JJMcD. If I recall correctly that is what he did for Padron 2 years ago at Houston when BLM went down, and for the next few games til he got more comfortable.

Or is the problem that he has dumbed it down already, and even those throws are beyond JJMcD's abilities?

There's not much you can do to simplify an offense for a QB who can't move and can't complete passes. Anything we run has little hope of succeeding with McD at QB.

Statler · Post by **Statler** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:48 pm

you mean our play selection this year?

Pass, run, incomplete (or throw in the flat and hope a receiver gets a first)

LakeHighlandsPony · Post by **LakeHighlandsPony** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:42 pm

I thought McDermott was drawing plays on the palm of his hand in the huddle.

pwnyxpress · Post by **pwnyxpress** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:57 pm

LakeHighlandsPony wrote:I thought McDermott was drawing plays on the palm of his hand in the huddle.

"Go out about 10 yards and do a buttonhook..."

squire · Post by **squire** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:15 pm

Not sure we need to blame JJ McD entirely. First it was Justin Willis who was the blame, then Bo Levi (looks fine at E. Washington), Braden Smith, Kyle Padron, JJ McD. Maybe the coaching staff needs to take some responsibility for things like q.b. evaluation, game planning, teaching, game day coaching etc.
Looks to me like an overly complicated, unbalanced, unproductive offense.
Maybe June can keep building the program and hire an O.C.
Captain Leach?

couch 'em · Post by **couch 'em** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:47 pm

I still don't understand how Jones had no trouble at Hawaii. Even the worst QBs there out performed BLM/KP/McD

sbsmith · Post by **sbsmith** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:48 pm

squire wrote:Not sure we need to blame JJ McD entirely. First it was Justin Willis who was the blame, then Bo Levi (looks fine at E. Washington), Braden Smith, Kyle Padron, JJ McD. Maybe the coaching staff needs to take some responsibility for things like q.b. evaluation, game planning, teaching, game day coaching etc.
Looks to me like an overly complicated, unbalanced, unproductive offense.
Maybe June can keep building the program and hire an O.C.
Captain Leach?

June would rather eat Peruna's droppings than give up control of the offense. We're going to be in serious trouble in the Big East if June keeps striking out with QBs.

CalallenStang · Post by **CalallenStang** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:50 pm

couch 'em wrote:I still don't understand how Jones had no trouble at Hawaii. Even the worst QBs there out performed BLM/KP/McD

Jones CARED out there

squire · Post by **squire** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:56 pm

Jones CARED out there

From some of the sideline shots of June, during the broadcast, I couldn't tell if he was awake.
Is there something behind the scenes besides the Big East drama?
Hope his health is OK.