Jones writing for DMN now?

mr. pony · Post by **mr. pony** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:43 am

Check out this note that appears today with the SMU-Pitt bowl match-up:

SMU did not play in a bowl until the arrival of June Jones, who has guided the Mustangs to three straight.

I promise you, Jones thinks this.

SMU 86 · Post by **SMU 86** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:47 am

After the DP we did not.

Nacho · Post by **Nacho** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:41 am

mr. pony wrote:Check out this note that appears today with the SMU-Pitt bowl match-up:

SMU did not play in a bowl until the arrival of June Jones, who has guided the Mustangs to three straight.

I promise you, Jones thinks this.

and what exactly is wrong with stating the fact that smu has now been to three straight bowl games?

PK · Post by PK » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:54 am

Nacho wrote:
mr. pony wrote:Check out this note that appears today with the SMU-Pitt bowl match-up:

SMU did not play in a bowl until the arrival of June Jones, who has guided the Mustangs to three straight.

I promise you, Jones thinks this.

and what exactly is wrong with stating the fact that smu has now been to three straight bowl games?

It would appear that SMU has never been to a bowl...or existed prior to 1989. :roll:

NickSMU17 · Post by **NickSMU17** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:56 am

Thats what most of this board thinks...

SMU 86 · Post by **SMU 86** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:57 am

I would like to see the article to check the quote. Mr Pony can twist things when he wants to try to make June look bad. Notice he did not put a link.

SMU_Alumni11 · Post by **SMU_Alumni11** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:21 am

NickSMU17 wrote:Thats what most of this board thinks...

C'mon I can understand the frustrations given our expectations and future ones as well, but its pretty hard to argue that he didnt bring up bowl bound 3 times... If you have to here is the chart:

2008- No bowl, JJ
2009- Hawaii bowl, JJ
2010- AFB, JJ
2011- BBVA, JJ

Everything prior 2008 not even close.

NickSMU17 · Post by **NickSMU17** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:31 am

JJ was right guy at right time...Cant state this more than the 150 times i stated it, no one was a bigger fan.

He was good in that he excited fans, and esp board of trustees, lloyd, sewel, and ford esp.

Guys who want SMU football to succeed and will do so at all costs...These guys pressured RGT to lower standards and build infrastructure. For this I will be thankful that he came.

However no previous coach since DP has been given so much, could rossley, gregg, caven, bennet been successful with these amenities, not sure, but I think they could have been better.

Half of d1 makes a bowl, and with our location, amenities, and schedule we should always be there.

So now that those things are in place, and with lloyd, ford, C of C, ect. I am pretty sure whoever comes in will be as successful if not more...

It is a very similar situation to TCU with francione and patterson...

You think they are crying for franchione to come back?

Stop acted like this guy is a football god...he really hasnt been a very good x's and o'x coach, cant get his offense to perform at all, hasnt been able to recruit a qb, or recruit the local area.

In fact, without 1 guy on our staff we would still be grabbing krappy recruits...

We have a lot to offer and we are trending up with or without this guy...but we have allowed him to come in, spit on traditions, be marginal, not work hard, and then he tells us we suck as fans, I'm sure that will bring more in.

Not to mention the timing of his last 2 coaching stops, 5 days before bowl and during most important recruiting weekend.

These recruits love AK and would follow AK whereever he goes not JJ...

mr. pony · Post by **mr. pony** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:38 am

SMU 86 wrote:I would like to see the article to check the quote. Mr Pony can twist things when he wants to try to make June look bad. Notice he did not put a link.

I don't twist ANYTHING. There was no article. It's a chart with DMN comments after each match-up. I quoted it word-for-word. I don't appreciate being called a liar, punk.

SMU_Alumni11 · Post by **SMU_Alumni11** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:39 am

NickSMU17 wrote:JJ was right guy at right time...Cant state this more than the 150 times i stated it, no one was a bigger fan.

He was good in that he excited fans, and esp board of trustees, lloyd, sewel, and ford esp.

Guys who want SMU football to succeed and will do so at all costs...These guys pressured RGT to lower standards and build infrastructure. For this I will be thankful that he came.

However no previous coach since DP has been given so much, could rossley, gregg, caven, bennet been successful with these amenities, not sure, but I think they could have been better.

Half of d1 makes a bowl, and with our location, amenities, and schedule we should always be there.

So now that those things are in place, and with lloyd, ford, C of C, ect. I am pretty sure whoever comes in will be as successful if not more...

It is a very similar situation to TCU with francione and patterson...

You think they are crying for franchione to come back?

Stop acted like this guy is a football god...he really hasnt been a very good x's and o'x coach, cant get his offense to perform at all, hasnt been able to recruit a qb, or recruit the local area.

In fact, without 1 guy on our staff we would still be grabbing krappy recruits...

We have a lot to offer and we are trending up with or without this guy...but we have allowed him to come in, spit on traditions, be marginal, not work hard, and then he tells us we suck as fans, I'm sure that will bring more in.

Not to mention the timing of his last 2 coaching stops, 5 days before bowl and during most important recruiting weekend.

These recruits love AK and would follow AK whereever he goes not JJ...

Also I would never say anybody is a god in any way shape or form. I just dont want people to toss him off to the side without at least giving him credit, which you did for some part of it. I have been stating that in an equitable decision would just let him retire or ask to leave later in his contract and go out and get someone that takes a team from average to greatness. I think with June for now, we can continue to make reforms and keep the anti-football faculty at bay. I know any coach would be slightly hesistant to just jump over with this much friction in our culture. I also think with JJ we will continue down the path of bowl bound, and wait for the right time to make that switch to get to BCS bowl bound state.

mr. pony · Post by **mr. pony** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:42 am

Amazing.
It says "SMU had not been to a bowl before the arrival of June Jones."
Hello??

SMU_Alumni11 · Post by **SMU_Alumni11** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:44 am

mr. pony wrote:Amazing.
Many don't see it says "SMU had not been to a bowl before Jones' arrival?"
Hello??

Probably referring to the BCS style bowl games. But again, if that wasnt the intention, it is known as Bevo Corp. Anything run by Bevo sucks.

Nacho · Post by **Nacho** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:55 am

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl ... odist.html

the hawaii bowl was our first bowl since 1984.
only our second time to go to three straight bowls.

lwjr · Post by **lwjr** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:08 am

mr. pony wrote:Check out this note that appears today with the SMU-Pitt bowl match-up:

SMU did not play in a bowl until the arrival of June Jones, who has guided the Mustangs to three straight.

I promise you, Jones thinks this.

Well, he is right.

WildBillPony · Post by **WildBillPony** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:09 am

NickSMU17 wrote:We have a lot to offer and we are trending up with or without this guy...but we have allowed him to come in, spit on traditions, be marginal, not work hard, and then he tells us we suck as fans, I'm sure that will bring more in.

Nick, I agree with some of your comments, but last time I checked, we DO suck as fans. What has been average attendance at football games during this and the past 3 seasons? The boulevard has more people in it than Ford Stadium on game day. That's because we DO suck as fans. SMU football attendance never has been impressive most years since I came to school here in 1970. It was OK at best during some of the Ron Meyer & Bobby Collins years, but still sub-par considering that the team was winning a lot more then.

So who would you replace JJ with? Which hallmark coach do you think is going to race to the hilltop like there was no tomorrow and immerse himself in the be all end all nirvana that is SMU?

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