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When I was in high school, i had no idea what college football was like. My best friend played at Michigan and set me strait--you are there for yourself and your teammates, coaching is a profession, they move all the time, assistant and position coaches even more than head coaches. Your scholarship is only there year to year providing you perform. Better like the school, your teammates and your classmates, because everything else is subject to change.
Head coaches are there only as long as the ball turns their way on a fumble, only as long as some spoiled athlete doesn't decide to take on a coed, assistant coaches are only cannon fodder to be given up to protect the head coach's job (Mack Brown). High risk, high reward. It is nothing at all like high school coaching as a profession, same with D-1 players.
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ericdickerson4life wrote:I get the anger. But we are acting like SMU is the last landing spot for a coach. It's a stepping stone and will be for a long time. You guys can harp about Peterson or Fatterson and how they were loyal and stuck around, but they are by far in the minority. Look what that loyalty did for Pat Hill. And speaking of loyalty. Didn't we have a whole bunch of fans clamoring for firing Jones for going 7-5 prior to this fiasco? Yep. Great loyalty shown by fans. A coach takes a team to 3 bowl games after being a laughing stock for 25 years and that's the thanks he gets. Those same fans are the ones [deleted] that Jones would want to leave. Amazing. In today's football world everyone here should realize that their is no loyalty. Saban would leave for the right amount of money, oh yeah he's done that a couple of times. And we would still all take him in a heart beat. A&M jumps conference to the SEC. Hell, we just gave up on our loyalty to CUSA. Boo Hoo. Get over your hurt feelings. My hunch. If June were to sit down with his players and explain everything to them and why he did what he did, they would probably understand. People around here would just call him a liar no matter what he tells anyone. He's in a no win situation with you guys. Again, get over the hurt feelings.

Who are you going to bring in to do a better job at this juncture. Oh yeah, Klemm. A proven excellent recruiter with little coaching experience, no coordinator experience and no head coaching experience. Sounds like you guys are the type to take all your money and place it on black 35.


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I can only speak for myself, I have been a JJ supporter. I do not like the R&S but I think what he has done is nothing short of a miracle. Some say any other coaches who would have been able to get the school to lower or change admission rules for athletes would have been able to revive the program as well. That might be true but we will never know, June was the coach that was able to get it done.
I don't fault any coach for doing what June did that is how the game is played these days. My biggest problem is the way the whole thing was handled and the recruiting of the prospects while on SMU's campus for ASU just in case the HC and some of his staff bolted for Tempe. Maybe that is done everywhere else and we as Mustangs fans are just now being exposed to it. If June had waited to Monday to interview, fine no problem. But this is such a PR mess iI dont know how June regains 100% of the existing players trust. Why would potential recruits want to come to SMU to play for June knowing he does not want to be here and he will be gone after one or two more years? June messed up, his agent messed up and ASU messed up. Now SMU is going to pay or feel the effects until June is gone or he/SMU somehow convince people he is committed to SMU and see this thing thru (not possible IMO). If June is that unhappy here then I would prefer he leaves now. That way SMU can hire a new coach and have some momentum heading into the Big East.
But unless someone is willing to buy out JJ's contract I know it is not going to happen. This is a lousy position for SMU to be in.
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ericdickerson4life wrote:I get the anger. But we are acting like SMU is the last landing spot for a coach. It's a stepping stone and will be for a long time. You guys can harp about Peterson or Fatterson and how they were loyal and stuck around, but they are by far in the minority. Look what that loyalty did for Pat Hill. And speaking of loyalty. Didn't we have a whole bunch of fans clamoring for firing Jones for going 7-5 prior to this fiasco? Yep. Great loyalty shown by fans. A coach takes a team to 3 bowl games after being a laughing stock for 25 years and that's the thanks he gets. Those same fans are the ones [deleted] that Jones would want to leave. Amazing. In today's football world everyone here should realize that their is no loyalty. Saban would leave for the right amount of money, oh yeah he's done that a couple of times. And we would still all take him in a heart beat. A&M jumps conference to the SEC. Hell, we just gave up on our loyalty to CUSA. Boo Hoo. Get over your hurt feelings. My hunch. If June were to sit down with his players and explain everything to them and why he did what he did, they would probably understand. People around here would just call him a liar no matter what he tells anyone. He's in a no win situation with you guys. Again, get over the hurt feelings.

Who are you going to bring in to do a better job at this juncture. Oh yeah, Klemm. A proven excellent recruiter with little coaching experience, no coordinator experience and no head coaching experience. Sounds like you guys are the type to take all your money and place it on black 35.


I totally agree with this. I think, for better or worse, we are starting to feel the effects of 'big time college football' ... happens all the time in other top programs..part of the culture these days ...
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My suggestion would be to base going forward on a professional approach. I am here to do a job as are you players. I commit to work hard to develop you as players and a team...

And stop with the religious revelation stuff and buddy buddy nonsense. That will not fly any longer.
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Mexmustang wrote:When I was in high school, i had no idea what college football was like. My best friend played at Michigan and set me strait--you are there for yourself and your teammates, coaching is a profession, they move all the time, assistant and position coaches even more than head coaches. Your scholarship is only there year to year providing you perform. Better like the school, your teammates and your classmates, because everything else is subject to change.
Head coaches are there only as long as the ball turns their way on a fumble, only as long as some spoiled athlete doesn't decide to take on a coed, assistant coaches are only cannon fodder to be given up to protect the head coach's job (Mack Brown). High risk, high reward. It is nothing at all like high school coaching as a profession, same with D-1 players.


Agreed. I'd like to see SO call a meeting and have this talk with the kids. Get them fired back up about playing for themselves, each other, their school, and us. Coaches come & go, but this will always be YOUR team. I can't imagine how deflated that locker room is today, but a good talk from someone they still trust might go a long way. Get them on board with the notion that at this point, their coach is just a tool (in the mechanical sense, of course), and they need to use that tool to achieve their goals, despite how they may personally feel about it.
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peruna11 wrote:Agreed. I'd like to see SO call a meeting and have this talk with the kids. Get them fired back up about playing for themselves, each other, their school, and us. Coaches come & go, but this will always be YOUR team. I can't imagine how deflated that locker room is today, but a good talk from someone they still trust might go a long way. Get them on board with the notion that at this point, their coach is just a tool (in the mechanical sense, of course), and they need to use that tool to achieve their goals, despite how they may personally feel about it.

A better job saying what I was poorly attempting to say. And I like the idea of having SO talk to them.
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He should bring the honey badger with him
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huskerpony wrote:He should bring the honey badger with him


Turn the honey badger loose in the coaches office during the meeting. Set everyone straight.
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Good idea!
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