Official SMU/Rice Thread

[redpony]

Move him up, give him a title. a lot less money and NO authority. What coach in their right mind would want this job with Doh telling them what to do?

GO PONIES!!!

[Hoop Fan]

solution:

Matt Doherty
Associate Director of Athletics-Basketball
(214)-768-HOOP

The more I think about it, Doh would love to have a HC he could boss around

what good head coach is gonna want Doh around? If you take Doh out of the head coach spot, what luster does he have left to fundraise personally? None. It sounds nice but has no practical chance of working.

[hoopmanx]

I'm sure Orsini recognizes it, but he's still the guy that gave Doh a 7 yr deal, w/laughable rollovers. Allowed him to gut the roster, and run off whomever he wanted. Then allowed his coach to change the programs direction, mid tenure, to a system that is very difficult to learn & execute properly. He reatins the head coach, but selects that coaches staff? Just fire the head coach.

uh, I was saying this all last year and you seemed to take huge exception to it. It had very little chance to work because everybody including of course the players see it for what it is. The other thing I said last spring is that poor roster management doomed this season and even next season at least because we had no real 5 in waiting to replace Papa in offensive post prescence, defending the post and rebounding. We got really exposed by Rice on the blocks last night. Leslee is great, but can't even come close to stopping real post men. I don't know how we beat Tulsa, but the 5 spot is a huge hole on both ends. On offense, no one we have can really post up and either score or draw the defense and kick it out for open shots. Maybe Blaise will be that guy when he shows up, but he is two years away from being a force at least. Doh can't have two more years to assemble the needed pieces, he's had too long already.

I only took exception to it b/c the team was playing well, and seemed well coached last year. Very well coached, in fact. Also, last year was the last of the 'rehab' years IMO, in other words the original contract, not that Orsini rollover garbage. We no longer were in jeopardy of firing another guy early etc. We've done our part to rehab this puppy, now after putting that behind us, the facts of the tenure are the facts of the tenure.

Blaise shoots 3s and faces, so he's not Papa in that way.

[Hoop Fan]

I'm not saying we were poorly coached last year, but I think having experience and having Papa in particular made us LOOK more well coached than we were. Sort of like Shumate in 1993. He had a team full of good upperclassmen who executed and made him look good for a year. I never had any confidence the Mangino band aid was sustainable. For one thing, if it worked temporarily, he would be lured away somewhere else, then what would Doh do? Stuff like that never works.

[hoopmanx]

I'm not saying we were poorly coached last year, but I think having experience and having Papa in particular made us LOOK more well coached than we were. Sort of like Shumate in 1993. He had a team full of good upperclassmen who executed and made him look good for a year. I never had any confidence the Mangino band aid was sustainable. For one thing, if it worked temporarily, he would be lured away somewhere else, then what would Doh do? Stuff like that never works.

I gotcha. That's probably pretty accurate. As we've discussed, the roster planning/management is the greatest downfall. One minute we're counting on Paul McCoy as our PG, the next we're scrambling for JFrog late in the Spring of '10, just as a stop-gap. Now he's the anointed 4yr starter? As you know, if we have problems in the post, it's b/c we didn't recruit enough adequate bigs. Ultimately, the shortcomings don't matter as much as why they exist in the first place. This team has no one,other than Manuel, that can slash. If we're gonna say inexperience is a huge factor, which it is, well why 9 new faces in year 6. You can't rebuild after your first 20 win year, you have to build on it. They haven't, and they've had ample chances.

It's just time. No hard feeling towards Doh, as it's not a program in turmoil and the roster is promising. He made a nice effort to rehab the position and get some DISD kids on the roster. All for the good. Too bad his results beyond that just stink

[mr. pony]

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[EastStang]

He's a great director of recruiting, fundraising, etc. He got Peter Principled to head coach where is wholly ill-equipped. He needed about 5 more years as an assistant coach to learn all the things he needed to learn. Instead, he got an offer to be head coach at ND. Did an adequate job there and got an offer to go UNC and put his head into the mouth of a lion. He went there (who wouldn't) recruited a great class and fell flat on his face. As a result, he got let go and blamed everyone else. You might say his coaching development stopped at that point in time. His name was going to get him offers to be head coach and entre's into living rooms. But his on court performance is lacking. Even if he did not get renewed by SMU, he'd be getting offers from lots of Arky State's, St. Louis', Bradley's, Valpo's, etc. Not at SMU money. And he'd land some recruits for those schools as well. We just have to look and see how we'll survive for the next few years until we get into the BE. If we play like we're playing now, we'll be 0-18 in the BE. Heck Providence put a big whup on Louisville the other night and they've been a doormat of the BE for years.

[hoopmanx]

harry callahan, harry callahan.

[hoopmanx]

harry callahan, harry callahan.

Is Harry the next Russell or one of this year's great talents you been talking about more months? I mean cut us in on your "inside scoop" regarding Harry? As I stated on another post, Harry is a Big Time Talent according to hoopmanx, he is at Auburn ( example) and is 6'6" and a beast. He isn't playing much according to hoopmanx but this kid has an incredible "upside" and will dominate if he transfer to SMU. But HOOPMANX sources say he might be learning towards Texas A/M instead of SMU because he wants to play in a more uptempo offense you know like the majority of teams in the country do. Don't we all see scores in the 85-95 range and especially during the conference season. Hoopmanx will also lean on his AAU coaching buddies to see where Harry is leaning and he wil boost attendance if he comes "home" to SMU. We know the drill hoopmanx

Harry Callahan says things

[GiddyUp]

lack of paint penetration is just killing this team. Williams does it 1-2 times a game, and Manuel can when given the green light. Teams are blocking the passing lanes. Smith needs to go to Post Up camps or clinics.

[LHS81]

Watched the North Texas-W Kentucky game tonight. 30 mile difference to watch a team run an efficient offense.

[hoopmanx]

Watched the North Texas-W Kentucky game tonight. 30 mile difference to watch a team run an efficient offense.

No offense, but the Mean Green stink as bad, if not worse than we do right now. I've seen several of their games. Also, they played a team that's so bad off, they fired their coach, Ken McDonald, about a week a go. Then they proceeded to get beat by a team w/6 men on the court w/o recognizing it.