Levingston Transferring?

[lwjr]

My Cali friends say UCLA has tougher entrance standards than SMU. They also stated that is why UCLA has a large Asian student population. Anyway, they did not know what the standards are for athletes. Is anyone familiar with entrance requirements for UCLA athletes? I am sorry I meant to say, student-athletes.

[Dr Jeske friend]

This is addition by subtraction.....somethings are easier to get closer to home.

[Mitch McConnell]

Will any of Adrian Klemm's recruits (regardless of where Klemm coaches) cut it academically and stay in schoo much less get into school?

Oh get a life, or if that isn't possible, at the very least stop stirring the pot. We know you don't like June Jones and we know you don't like Adrian Klemm. But it seems that Ben Gottschalk, Conner Preston, Arrius Holleman, etc., are all doing just fine academically. Stop with the sweeping generalizations.

Well, when somebody is trying to sabotage your alma mater's football program, you may not have a problem with it, but I do.

[Mustangsabu]

Best of luck to Dontae. Sounds like a very difficult situation for a young man to be in.


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[SMULaxer]

Sorry to sound cruel, but we will put that scholarship to good use next year. Peace out cali bro

[ojaipony]

Sorry to hear about Dontae's situation. Perhaps he would have left even if Klemm were still here. Speaking from first hand experience, it can be very hard to leave SoCal and live somewhere else as you can get really spoiled with the weather, etc ... I tried to move back to the east coast after living in Carlsbad -- I grew up in Memphis -- and just couldn't take it and had to move back out here. As much as non-Californians like to rag on the People's Republic of California, it's actually a pretty amazing place (nowhere else can you simply DRIVE to the weather/experience you want ... beach, snow, deserts, mountains all usually within a 2 hour drive and the public parks here are amazing).

Anyway, good luck Dontae. I'm sure you'll end up somewhere you will ultimately thrive. (a few years of maturing, physically and mentally, will help).

[Charleston Pony]

perfectly understandable and also a reminder that the program would be well served to recruit closer to home

[Mustangs_Maroons]

My Cali friends say UCLA has tougher entrance standards than SMU. They also stated that is why UCLA has a large Asian student population. Anyway, they did not know what the standards are for athletes. Is anyone familiar with entrance requirements for UCLA athletes? I am sorry I meant to say, student-athletes.

I really doubt your cali friends can weigh in on UCLA vs. SMU overall admission standards since they probably don't know much about SMU. My two cents (taking off my SMU cap), however, is that UCLA does currently have tougher admission standards. UCLA is better ranked currently (think US news top 25/30 vs. our top 62). The reality is UCLA is considered one of the best public schools in the country. It is better than UT. I think our admission standards are on par with UT, and we are starting to pull away from them with regards to the average enrolled student (ie, higher sat scores, etc). I think our SAT scores (with the most recent class) will put us on part with UCLA but UCLA still attracts a much broader and still strong applicant base (hence, lower admission rates). I do think we'll be in the top 50 soon. As mentioned above, remember that UCLA is ranked as a top 25/30 school with much larger research budgets. If we can continue on our trajectory and increase our national reach, I think we have the potential to catch up to them since we're a private school and have more flexibility on admission standards, but it will take a very dedicated effort.

With regards to admission standards for student athletes, both schools decrease their thresholds. I might be wrong but considering that our overall students have similar SAT scores and GPA, I don't think the admission standards for student/athletes would be that different, if at all.

[SMUfiji43]

I'm from California and UCLA's admission standards are definitely higher than SMU's without much contest. I don't have a "link" off hand, but having lived here my whole life I have a good understanding of the system.

For out-of-state kids UCLA's admissions are comparable to Ivy League schools

[SMUfiji43]

This thread has totally digressed, by the way. I could give a rat's @$$ about admission standards.

Let's talk football

[Mustangs_Maroons]

This thread has totally digressed, by the way. I could give a rat's @$$ about admission standards.

Let's talk football

I wanted to clarify something about admission standards because folks seem to make certain assumptions or make certain claims without actually having the data to back them up. I back my assertions with the data that I have available.

I care about admission standards because it impacts the brand of our university. Just like we want a good product on the field. This is a digression, though, but I wanted to provide some perspective. Now, let's talk about football.

[Mustangs_Maroons]

I'm from California and UCLA's admission standards are definitely higher than SMU's without much contest. I don't have a "link" off hand, but having lived here my whole life I have a good understanding of the system.

For out-of-state kids UCLA's admissions are comparable to Ivy League schools

Last point I'll make on this. The stats for our enrolled student stats are not that much different from UCLA. With that said, they do have tougher admission standards because they have greater volume, and the volume is not diluted because they get good quality applicants. And no, UCLA's admission standards for out-of-state are not comparable to those of ivy league schools. Dead wrong. Simply because they don't get the same applicants from out-of-state that the ivy league and ivy-like colleges do. Now, let's continue to football.

[RGV Pony]

Most if not all uc schools have pretty high standards for non-athletes

[mustangxc]

I'm from California and UCLA's admission standards are definitely higher than SMU's without much contest. I don't have a "link" off hand, but having lived here my whole life I have a good understanding of the system.

For out-of-state kids UCLA's admissions are comparable to Ivy League schools

Last point I'll make on this. The stats for our enrolled student stats are not that much different from UCLA. With that said, they do have tougher admission standards because they have greater volume, and the volume is not diluted because they get good quality applicants. And no, UCLA's admission standards for out-of-state are not comparable to those of ivy league schools. Dead wrong. Simply because they don't get the same applicants from out-of-state that the ivy league and ivy-like colleges do. Now, let's continue to football.

UCLA does have extremely stringent standards for out of state applicants and they are comparable to ivy league standards for out of state applicants.

[SMUfiji43]

Thank you, mustangxc