Levingston Transferring?

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That is just not true. Sorry. Stronger then SMU , yes. Ivy league for out of stater going to ucla? No. That is incorrect sir. Now let's talk football.
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UCLA is a challenging place to transfer for athletes especially coming from a JC. Much like SMU, they dont accept most transfer hours.

I never brought this up before, but one of the things I was most concerned about with some of the guys Klemm was recruiting to SMU from California was how many of them would stay at SMU. Not just because of academics, but more as to how kids from the inner city in Los Angeles would fit in at SMU. Being 1,200 miles from home and going to school with a largely white upper middle class student body was something that I was always a bit skepticial about. Kids like Goltestick and Preston, not so much. While true there are a lot of kids from California at SMU, there are not many from the parts of LA that Pettaway, Livingston, Marks, Pachio, and Moreland are from. Taking kids from the the inner city, thousands of miles from friends and family, have them in Texas,surrounded by rich white kids.....and playing against $25,000 people and against conference USA teams they have never heard of....and at a small private school with no athletic friendly majors. Is anybody surprised this was a bad business model?
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In the same vein, I really think we do a terrible job integrating athletes into the general student population. I hope with the new sophomore housing they can open up Morrison-McGinnis and Cockrell-McIntosh to more freshmen and that we can sort of scatter athletes throughout that South "Quad" area. Unless you lived in McElvaney or shared a class with them, I feel like the average freshman has a pretty slim chance of ever running into a football player much less being friends with one. They wake up early, have their own meetings, live together, eat together and at weird hours...maybe this has changed some but I feel that's the way it was 2002-2006. If more freshmen were friends with the football players, I think you'd see a decent bump in the number of students that go to games. Instead, athletes tend to clique-ish and only friends with each other. This needs to change, otherwise, I could see how inner-city athletes could feel like an outsider, with friends but with little other interaction and sort of pushed to the bottom of Campus.
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I'm sorry to hear about his family. It also sounds like his grades suffered for whatever reason. Hopefully, he can get things righted and have a successful football career somewhere. I think the admissions requirements discussion is a red herring here. He got admitted here, and now he has to earn some grades in JUCO to get into some FBS school hopefully for him closer to home.
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Dwan wrote:UCLA is a challenging place to transfer for athletes especially coming from a JC. Much like SMU, they dont accept most transfer hours.

I never brought this up before, but one of the things I was most concerned about with some of the guys Klemm was recruiting to SMU from California was how many of them would stay at SMU. Not just because of academics, but more as to how kids from the inner city in Los Angeles would fit in at SMU. Being 1,200 miles from home and going to school with a largely white upper middle class student body was something that I was always a bit skepticial about. Kids like Goltestick and Preston, not so much. While true there are a lot of kids from California at SMU, there are not many from the parts of LA that Pettaway, Livingston, Marks, Pachio, and Moreland are from. Taking kids from the the inner city, thousands of miles from friends and family, have them in Texas,surrounded by rich white kids.....and playing against $25,000 people and against conference USA teams they have never heard of....and at a small private school with no athletic friendly majors. Is anybody surprised this was a bad business model?


I guess if you take away the 1,200 mile aspect then we have the same thing for intercity Kids in Houston and Dallas. Maybe that is why we are getting a lot of DISD kids?
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Dwan wrote:UCLA is a challenging place to transfer for athletes especially coming from a JC. Much like SMU, they dont accept most transfer hours.

I never brought this up before, but one of the things I was most concerned about with some of the guys Klemm was recruiting to SMU from California was how many of them would stay at SMU. Not just because of academics, but more as to how kids from the inner city in Los Angeles would fit in at SMU. Being 1,200 miles from home and going to school with a largely white upper middle class student body was something that I was always a bit skepticial about. Kids like Goltestick and Preston, not so much. While true there are a lot of kids from California at SMU, there are not many from the parts of LA that Pettaway, Livingston, Marks, Pachio, and Moreland are from. Taking kids from the the inner city, thousands of miles from friends and family, have them in Texas,surrounded by rich white kids.....and playing against $25,000 people and against conference USA teams they have never heard of....and at a small private school with no athletic friendly majors. Is anybody surprised this was a bad business model?


I have had academic admission concerns re most of this year's Cali kids from the beginning. At one time I had a good familiarity with LA area high schools and when I started to see kids from some of these academically marginal high schools I immediately became apprehensive. I posted this last fall on another thread and several poster implied that I was invoking racial stereotypes, but one other LA based poster intimately familiar with LA area high school set forth the statistics demonstrating very real academic concerns for most of the high schools where we had verbals. My only point is that it will be interesting how many of our lost verbals will actually qualify and enroll in the school they choose. I do hope for their sakes that they are solid students and have good college careers.
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