Stallion wrote:TCU recruits almost exclusively Texas players-two BCS Bowls-too many 10 win seasons to count. About 6 Conference Championships. The difference is they hired a Coaching Staff that knows what they are doing recruiting Texas.
Hey Stallion,
I contacted my attorney and asked him about the value of a collegiate "offer", cost me a hundred bucks... you never guess what he said.. "it is sort of like a wink in a dating chat room" it does not matter how much winking you do it is who you get to take to the dance...
Well at least TCU's top Texas recruits actually wink back at them,-although rumors are they are going to lose one of their 4 stars-Daje Johnson in a few minutes to UT. You can dismiss offers all you want. I'll talk the 23 straight years of results they have routed SMU in recruiting
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris
When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
Stallion wrote:Well at least TCU's top Texas recruits actually wink back at them,-although rumors are they are going to lose one of their 4 stars-Daje Johnson in a few minutes to UT. You can dismiss offers all you want. I'll talk the 23 straight years of results they have routed SMU in recruiting
Of course I understand you must offer to receive but not diluting your sincerity with low to moderate interest candidates shows more character to me. The statistic from this I am interested is the closing ratio to offers. Maybe Coach'EM can get on that..
HaHaHa you don't want to go offers to commitments ratio-it would look very ugly for SMU. SMU has over about 120 and TCU was basically done in September. That's what cracks me up-you guys pretend like SMU is getting the guy SMU really wants. No they aren't. We've given about 38 offers in the Offensive Line and settling for the bottom of the list-except maybe Seaver Myers
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris
When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
Stallion wrote:HaHaHa you don't want to go offers to commitments ratio-it would look very ugly for SMU. SMU has over about 120 and TCU was basically done in September. That's what cracks me up-you guys pretend like SMU is getting the guy SMU really wants. No they aren't. We've given about 38 offers in the Offensive Line and settling for the bottom of the list-except maybe Seaver Myers
I don't think Jones is really "getting all the guys he really would like to have" but I am glad to hear from you he is aiming high. I am not pretending anything and like I mentioned earlier don't really follow the recruiting link on this board. I am satisfied the staff has a strategy and is working their plan to the best of their abilities and the results to date have been very good relative to SMU's past.
SMU's reputation in Texas has improved significantly the first three and one half years of Jones at the helm, but obviously there are some problems now. The big question in my mind is are we going to work together to fix the problems or let the problems destroy what we have accomplished. Some on this board I think would be happy to go 1-11 just to stay in their comfort zone of misery.
The way you fix the Texas recruiting problem is to clear out the deadweight in the Coaching Staff and get some younger more aggressive, more ethnically diverse coaches with Texas recruiting ties. Instead we hired yet another 62 year June Jones buddy who does not recruit and has never coached anywhere close to Texas. Damn we are lucky Jason Phillips was even availiable
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris
When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
Stallion wrote:HaHaHa you don't want to go offers to commitments ratio-it would look very ugly for SMU. SMU has over about 120 and TCU was basically done in September. That's what cracks me up-you guys pretend like SMU is getting the guy SMU really wants. No they aren't. We've given about 38 offers in the Offensive Line and settling for the bottom of the list-except maybe Seaver Myers
38 offers? - are you saying the coaching staff isn't going after the right guys or lack of effort? or both?
Stallion wrote:HaHaHa you don't want to go offers to commitments ratio-it would look very ugly for SMU. SMU has over about 120 and TCU was basically done in September. That's what cracks me up-you guys pretend like SMU is getting the guy SMU really wants. No they aren't. We've given about 38 offers in the Offensive Line and settling for the bottom of the list-except maybe Seaver Myers
I don't think Jones is really "getting all the guys he really would like to have" but I am glad to hear from you he is aiming high. I am not pretending anything and like I mentioned earlier don't really follow the recruiting link on this board. I am satisfied the staff has a strategy and is working their plan to the best of their abilities and the results to date have been very good relative to SMU's past.
SMU's reputation in Texas has improved significantly the first three and one half years of Jones at the helm, but obviously there are some problems now. The big question in my mind is are we going to work together to fix the problems or let the problems destroy what we have accomplished. Some on this board I think would be happy to go 1-11 just to stay in their comfort zone of misery.
Stallion wrote:HaHaHa you don't want to go offers to commitments ratio-it would look very ugly for SMU. SMU has over about 120 and TCU was basically done in September. That's what cracks me up-you guys pretend like SMU is getting the guy SMU really wants. No they aren't. We've given about 38 offers in the Offensive Line and settling for the bottom of the list-except maybe Seaver Myers
I don't think Jones is really "getting all the guys he really would like to have" but I am glad to hear from you he is aiming high. I am not pretending anything and like I mentioned earlier don't really follow the recruiting link on this board. I am satisfied the staff has a strategy and is working their plan to the best of their abilities and the results to date have been very good relative to SMU's past.
SMU's reputation in Texas has improved significantly the first three and one half years of Jones at the helm, but obviously there are some problems now. The big question in my mind is are we going to work together to fix the problems or let the problems destroy what we have accomplished. Some on this board I think would be happy to go 1-11 just to stay in their comfort zone of misery.
If you are that unhappy here, June, please leave.
I don't know where you got the idea I am unhappy.. I am anticipating a great season next year.. I am defending right from wrong.. I got a big white hat in the mail today.. and I am supporting the coaching staff and the team.. Go Mustangs...
Its not being negative, its called being realistic. I believe the most negative fans on this board are actually the most passionate. They see the mistakes that JJ and the program have done and see missed opportunities.
JJ really hurt this program with the whole ASU story. You people forget that JJ was the new ASU coach had ASU not rescinded their offer due to strong opposition by the ASU alums and fans. And the situation couldnt have helped Klemm stay.. I mean if the head coach doesnt wanna be at SMU why would Klemm, right?
And couch 'em is right, there was barely any negativity until the embarrassing losses to USM, Tulsa, and Navy. After the UCF game everyone was ecstatic as we were 5-1 and riding high. Then everything went to the toilet, hence people became negative. Watching McDermott regress after the UCF game was extremely tough to watch and I dont understand how anyone here would not turn negative.. I really thought I would get a heart attack watching him play. I still dont understand what JJ saw in him. Decisions JJ makes like these just drive me nuts and theres no shame in questioning our head coach's actions.
And I would give JJ only partial credit for getting us into the BE because we did greatly reduce academic requirements to get better players when he came in. Look at our offense the last 2 years; its pretty average. Funny thing is if it wasnt for our defense there would be a lot more JJ haters out there.
Stallion wrote:The way you fix the Texas recruiting problem is to clear out the deadweight in the Coaching Staff and get some younger more aggressive, more ethnically diverse coaches with Texas recruiting ties. Instead we hired yet another 62 year June Jones buddy who does not recruit and has never coached anywhere close to Texas. Damn we are lucky Jason Phillips was even availiable
Stallion..........
If you don't like staff and management contact the CofC and Orsini and show some intelligence in problem solving in doing so you could show some respect and protect the Image of SMU instead of your self serving post count. Help raise the School Image instead of tainting it.
You sound like the guy "around the program" who questioned Odum when he recruited Sterling Moore from JUCO.
JonesDoe wrote: I don't think Jones is really "getting all the guys he really would like to have" but I am glad to hear from you he is aiming high. I am not pretending anything and like I mentioned earlier don't really follow the recruiting link on this board. I am satisfied the staff has a strategy and is working their plan to the best of their abilities and the results to date have been very good relative to SMU's past.
SMU's reputation in Texas has improved significantly the first three and one half years of Jones at the helm, but obviously there are some problems now. The big question in my mind is are we going to work together to fix the problems or let the problems destroy what we have accomplished. Some on this board I think would be happy to go 1-11 just to stay in their comfort zone of misery.
If you are that unhappy here, June, please leave.
I don't know where you got the idea I am unhappy.. I am anticipating a great season next year.. I am defending right from wrong.. I got a big white hat in the mail today.. and I am supporting the coaching staff and the team.. Go Mustangs...
June, your posts on this very thread have shown that you are unwilling to deal with SMU's fanbase. It's not the best environment for you to work with. That's understandable, we all must find environments that maximize our ability to be successful at work.
Lebanese4Life wrote:Its not being negative, its called being realistic. I believe the most negative fans on this board are actually the most passionate. They see the mistakes that JJ and the program have done and see missed opportunities. You commend and think the passionate negative hindsight is somehow visionary and seem to approve of the often misguided behavior that is never channeled where it could be considered by the parties who have the responsibility to oversee and make change. I think rational constructive criticism, with all due respect for coaches and team, would be a better approach and be good for the coaches, school and team to consider.
JJ really hurt this program with the whole ASU story. You people forget that JJ was the new ASU coach had ASU not rescinded their offer due to strong opposition by the ASU alums and fans. And the situation couldnt have helped Klemm stay.. I mean if the head coach doesnt wanna be at SMU why would Klemm, right? Open your mind and ponder why would the coaching staff consider leaving SMU?.... Then maybe take some ownership of the ASU debacle which was greatly manufactured out of people actions other than Jones and nothing out of the ordinary in the coaching profession. The "fire everyone mentality" and campaign to infect all students, alumni, recruits and their parents who read this board. The crazy make Klem the head coach... Remember that... If you go back and see how crazy this boards mind set was during that time you just might realize that the wise approach may have been the use of positive spin on the order of "move along nothing to see here" trusting in the CofC and Orcini or state your concerns to them. We might have saved a bunch of recruits.
And couch 'em is right, there was barely any negativity until the embarrassing losses to USM, Tulsa, and Navy. After the UCF game everyone was ecstatic as we were 5-1 and riding high. Then everything went to the toilet, hence people became negative. Watching McDermott regress after the UCF game was extremely tough to watch and I dont understand how anyone here would not turn negative.. I really thought I would get a heart attack watching him play. I still dont understand what JJ saw in him. Decisions JJ makes like these just drive me nuts and theres no shame in questioning our head coach's actions. Coach'EM was wrong with his view of some games are not worth attending and only after winning "Big Games" the team deserves or should expect good attendance... Everything was good 5-1.. THEN the team was dissed because they lost to a better, bigger and stronger team with McDermot injured (that happens and it is the supporters job to support and lift up the spirits of the team).
Are you a part of the group, or supporter of, that got up from their seats and walked away when the team joined the students to sing the school song? That disgrace is what should give you a heart attack...... Are you in the category of what did you do for me lately.. Are you unwittingly or prefer to be a part of the death house mentality instead of the believers, the "realistic" builders of the program of which there are many on this board called sunshiners.
And I would give JJ only partial credit for getting us into the BE because we did greatly reduce academic requirements to get better players when he came in. Look at our offense the last 2 years; its pretty average. Funny thing is if it wasnt for our defense there would be a lot more JJ haters out there. Realistically... Who has ownership of the Defense Jones and his coaches or Ponyfans? Are you aware that issue of athlete academic requirements was on the top of Jones list to be addressed when taking the job at SMU and Turner and SMU did their part?
The bigger picture, Jones, McDermot and SMU had some big wins this year finished strong at 8-5 finishing up from last year ... Grateful appreciation of what has been accomplished, appreciation of the effort of the coaching staff, appreciation of the players efforts, understanding the mistakes and miscues and channeling constructive opinion is what will produce the results SMU aspires to. I think you unwittingly are one of the ungrateful perpetrators of the cult of the death house...
Jones has made several adjustments to the system that brought him to SMU. Do you remember Zach Line rushing for four or five touchdowns in one game. I am very interested in the new hires and what their effect is going to deliver. Klem's philosophy on line play appears now not to have been a good system. According to what the linemen had to say after he was gone and Suan spent a month with them they played together very will. Not a single first and fifteen for McDermot to overcome in the bowl game. Nobody complained about that multi seasonal problem or asked why if I recall correctly.
Jason Phillips from what Jones has indicated will be heard and worked with and hopefully the new version of the Run & Shoot will have the bugs worked out in camp. Anyone with common sense will also realize that Recruiting will be reviewed from the top and a new plan will be made going forward based on their collective decisions.
SMU supporters should have more faith in Orscini's knowledge of what is really going on in the program and offer him your speculation and advice on program changes and firings. What you and everyone else should consider and be worried about is your own actions and the negative effect on the fan base, the program and the national image of SMU.
The way I see things, SMU can still have a good recruitment class this year and next year we can do better than this year. A year that was actually pretty good considering our less than perfect offensive production in the passing department and the limitations available to actually fix the problem..
