Is June back from Israel yet?

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OK how about having Junior Days several months after the major schools in our region and 6 weeks AFTER all of their SECOND Junior Days. Prediction: Before SMU has their first Junior Days-easily 40% of the Top 100 will have already committed. SMU will still be calling coaches asking them to tell the kids that we want to offer. The other schools have already had them on campus. Stop agreeing with every backwards, Divsion 1AA , self defeating idea that has become acceptable around here. Top 25 in everything we do!!!!!
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It is time to PANIC!!!! Wow.
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No its time to compete
Here's the deal-just like every other competitiveness criticism I've had about SMU in the last 20 years-that policy will be changed. We will eventually move our Junior Days up to compete just like our BCS rivals (unless rule is changed). Then all you guys are going to say what a great idea it was and you knew it all along. My [deleted] will become the Official policy of the university. Sit back and watch.
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PonyPower wrote:We're smart to not have junior days on the same days that places like UT, A&M and even Froggy High have them. I realize that goes against the agenda of the JJ witch hunt brigade, but staggering them to different dates increases the chance of more good players showing up.


We don't even go after guys that those schools want, so what is the point of waiting 6 weeks after they are already done for having our first Junior day. If you want to waive the white flag and not compete with those schools on junior days that is fine, wait a week after they are done to have your day. Don't wait a month and a half and allow half of the top recruits to commit somewhere else before you even have a chance to get them on campus.
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Stallion wrote:No its time to compete
Here's the deal-just like every other competitiveness criticism I've had about SMU in the last 20 years-that policy will be changed. We will eventually move our Junior Days up to compete just like our BCS rivals (unless rule is changed). Then all you guys are going to say what a great idea it was and you knew it all along. My [deleted] will become the Official policy of the university. Sit back and watch.

Absolutely....it probably will change.... I actually hope it does change. However, when it does, it will have absolutely nothing to do with you or I.
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PonyPower wrote:We're smart to not have junior days on the same days that places like UT, A&M and even Froggy High have them. I realize that goes against the agenda of the JJ witch hunt brigade, but staggering them to different dates increases the chance of more good players showing up.

We're supposed to be BCS now, not volunteering to be second tier.

By acting second tier we send the message that we are second tier to recruits.
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PonyPower wrote:We're smart to not have junior days on the same days that places like UT, A&M and even Froggy High have them. I realize that goes against the agenda of the JJ witch hunt brigade, but staggering them to different dates increases the chance of more good players showing up.

We're supposed to be BCS now, not volunteering to be second tier.

By acting second tier we send the message that we are second tier to recruits.


1) We aren't in the BCS yet. Heck, who knows if there will be AQ status once we finally get in the BCS.

2) Confidence: some people think that we must "do what Texas" does to be successful. Any deviance from what Texas does is seen as a lack of confidence (and/or brains). In reality, having the confidence to have Junior Day on a different day shows brains and confidence.

Let's say there are 200 kids that SMU wants to see. If SMU has Junior Day on the same day as UT, A&M, and TCU, some of them will not be at SMU. If SMU moves its day back a week, it has the best shot at getting every single guy they want on campus. Since we are confident in our facilities and school, that is the confident approach to recruiting.

Recently, RGIII and Luck ended up with their pro day scheduled for the same day. RGIII (who wants to be taken 1st over Luck) moved his pro day, some saw it as a capitulation. If he thinks he is better than Luck, moving his pro day to ensure that everyone that matters gets to see them both is the confident move.

3) Creativity: when you are the up and comer, you need to do different things to break the status quo.
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It's not simply Texas. It's every other flippin school within five hours of ours. It also isn't a week we're talking about, it's two months. Enormous differences. Half of those schools will have had two junior days before we've had ours.
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All of them including OU, OSU, Arkansas and LSU as well have already had their SECOND Junior Day except I'm not sure what is going on at UH. But they also turned over 75% of their staff
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So we show confidence by putting ours so late because we can't compete with the big schools anyway? What?
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Digetydog wrote:
couch 'em wrote:
PonyPower wrote:We're smart to not have junior days on the same days that places like UT, A&M and even Froggy High have them. I realize that goes against the agenda of the JJ witch hunt brigade, but staggering them to different dates increases the chance of more good players showing up.

We're supposed to be BCS now, not volunteering to be second tier.

By acting second tier we send the message that we are second tier to recruits.


1) We aren't in the BCS yet. Heck, who knows if there will be AQ status once we finally get in the BCS.

2) Confidence: some people think that we must "do what Texas" does to be successful. Any deviance from what Texas does is seen as a lack of confidence (and/or brains). In reality, having the confidence to have Junior Day on a different day shows brains and confidence.

Let's say there are 200 kids that SMU wants to see. If SMU has Junior Day on the same day as UT, A&M, and TCU, some of them will not be at SMU. If SMU moves its day back a week, it has the best shot at getting every single guy they want on campus. Since we are confident in our facilities and school, that is the confident approach to recruiting.

Recently, RGIII and Luck ended up with their pro day scheduled for the same day. RGIII (who wants to be taken 1st over Luck) moved his pro day, some saw it as a capitulation. If he thinks he is better than Luck, moving his pro day to ensure that everyone that matters gets to see them both is the confident move.

3) Creativity: when you are the up and comer, you need to do different things to break the status quo.


TCU started selling the BCS Big East as soon as they were accepted and had very good success. We been over backwards to make excuses it seems.
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What exactly was he doing in Israel?
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Lebanese4Life wrote:What exactly was he doing in Israel?
i asked that question and no one knew for sure. only speculation that he was there with his church.
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