DMN: Who will replace Doherty? Here are some possibilities..

[Digetydog]

I still have the feeling that with the state of our program and the money that we will have to offer, Jones from UNT is going to be the next coach. Who knows, maybe it would be a good hire, although it will leave everyone very underwhelmed.

Originally, I thought the same thing about hiring Jones. After researching his record, I changed my mind. I would rather have a guy who can coach coming up from a smaller program than a failure from a big program.

He would be hungry to succeed like we haven't seen in some time.

[East Coast Mustang]

It's not about winning the press conference, it's about winning actual games. We went with the "big hire" when we got Doherty and got an ESPN headline the day he was hired- and I don't think we got another one until the 28 pt. debacle six years later.

Yeah, Shaka Smart could be had for the right $ amount potentially- but two things- one, I assume so big time programs (Illinois?) will be ponying up cash for him as well, and two, who's putting up the money on our end? Is the CoC getting back together for a basketball round? I feel like, if he turned down NC State last year, we won't have the money to be a serious player.

[hoopmanx]

It's not about winning the press conference, it's about winning actual games. We went with the "big hire" when we got Doherty and got an ESPN headline the day he was hired- and I don't think we got another one until the 28 pt. debacle six years later.

Yeah, Shaka Smart could be had for the right $ amount potentially- but two things- one, I assume so big time programs (Illinois?) will be ponying up cash for him as well, and two, who's putting up the money on our end? Is the CoC getting back together for a basketball round? I feel like, if he turned down NC State last year, we won't have the money to be a serious player.

Money wasn't why he didn't take the Nc State position, the AD & the fan base were the reason. State has trouble attracting coaches b/c their fan base is delusional and can't accept they aren't Duke or UNC. Worse yet, they have Maryland's old AD, who made Gary Williams life hell for 20 years. She's well known in hoops circles as someone that fought a HOF coach at every turn, and never handled matters internally. Instead, she'd call press conferences and turn on her own revenue coaches. There is a reason they missed on 9 candidates before Gottfried was brought out of self-imposed retirement

[Water Pony]

Why is a big ten job beteer then SMU for the same money? At same money give me Dallas, perfect facilities, target rich recruiting environment and the big east all day long. Illionois is a dump.

Really?

- Rich BB tradition
- Recruiting base, e.g. Chicago, is one of the best.
- Big Ten competition
- More BB revenue, salaries and sponsorships
- Assembly Hall venue
- Strong student support, Orange Krush.

Until we start packing Moody and are competitive in the BE, Illinois is a better and premier job.

[East Coast Mustang]

It's not about winning the press conference, it's about winning actual games. We went with the "big hire" when we got Doherty and got an ESPN headline the day he was hired- and I don't think we got another one until the 28 pt. debacle six years later.

Yeah, Shaka Smart could be had for the right $ amount potentially- but two things- one, I assume so big time programs (Illinois?) will be ponying up cash for him as well, and two, who's putting up the money on our end? Is the CoC getting back together for a basketball round? I feel like, if he turned down NC State last year, we won't have the money to be a serious player.

Money wasn't why he didn't take the Nc State position, the AD & the fan base were the reason. State has trouble attracting coaches b/c their fan base is delusional and can't accept they aren't Duke or UNC. Worse yet, they have Maryland's old AD, who made Gary Williams life hell for 20 years. She's well known in hoops circles as someone that fought a HOF coach at every turn, and never handled matters internally. Instead, she'd call press conferences and turn on her own revenue coaches. There is a reason they missed on 9 candidates before Gottfried was brought out of self-imposed retirement

I get what you're saying- but there's no reason they can't be a top-tier ACC program. They're in the tourney this year as a 6 seed. Good facilities, much easier to recruit there, etc.

SMU is miles behind NCSU right now. We're miles behind anyone who's going to be a serious player for Shaka Smart.

[StangEsq]

If he's looking for "lowered expectations", potential to improve and fertile recruiting grounds, we're miles ahead of NCSU...

[Mitch McConnell]

Why is a big ten job beteer then SMU for the same money? At same money give me Dallas, perfect facilities, target rich recruiting environment and the big east all day long. Illionois is a dump.

I realize that you are anti-Big 10 at just about every turn. So bad is your hatred that it's blind. But this is a really stupid and delusional post coming from you. Stop being a dumba$$ about this subject.

And I'm calling total BS on your comments about the SMU search. You're blowing a lot of smoke.

[East Coast Mustang]

If he's looking for "lowered expectations", potential to improve and fertile recruiting grounds, we're miles ahead of NCSU...

At this point, going from VCU to SMU would probably be viewed as a lateral (at best) move, or perhaps a step down. Just because we're going to a big conference doesn't suddenly make us viable. No one is clamoring to coach at Rutgers or Penn State, either.

[Pony^]

Fraley: At crossroad after Doherty firing, SMU could 'humiliate' itself in Big East

Stating the obvious:

This is a huge hire for the AD Steve Orsini because they’re getting into the Big East. This isn’t the Southland Conference or Conference USA — they could get humiliated if they don’t really upgrade that program. The flip side is getting into the Big East is going to help their recruiting because they’re going to get a lot of national publicity, a lot of national attention. But this hire is real important and Orsini can’t flub this one like he flubbed Doherty. He’s got to make a good hire here. To me, it’s the crossroads for SMU basketball. They could really do something well by moving to the Big East, or they could just humiliate themselves.

WITH MATT DOHERTY OUT AT SMU, A LOOK AT SOME POSSIBLE REPLACEMENTS:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/colleg ... tory502670

[Digetydog]

Fraley: At crossroad after Doherty firing, SMU could 'humiliate' itself in Big East

Stating the obvious:

This is a huge hire for the AD Steve Orsini because they’re getting into the Big East. This isn’t the Southland Conference or Conference USA — they could get humiliated if they don’t really upgrade that program. The flip side is getting into the Big East is going to help their recruiting because they’re going to get a lot of national publicity, a lot of national attention. But this hire is real important and Orsini can’t flub this one like he flubbed Doherty. He’s got to make a good hire here. To me, it’s the crossroads for SMU basketball. They could really do something well by moving to the Big East, or they could just humiliate themselves.

WITH MATT DOHERTY OUT AT SMU, A LOOK AT SOME POSSIBLE REPLACEMENTS:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/colleg ... tory502670

Heck. We humiliated ourselves in the CUSA. 28 points!! Jackson State!!

Let's get this show on the road and announce the guy soon. I am warming to the idea of J Jones.

[Bergermeister]

I am warming to the idea of J Jones.

I hope you're the only one.

[hoopmanx]

I am warming to the idea of J Jones.

I hope you're the only one.

You sir, are w/o a clue

[East Coast Mustang]

We could do a lot worse than Johnny Jones. I think he could do a great job recruiting DFW with the lure of the Big East and SMU's facilities.

[Mustangsabu]

It's a good thing there are separate message boards. Having two head coaches called Jones who will be referred to as JJ is going to get ugly


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[hoopmanx]

It's not about winning the press conference, it's about winning actual games. We went with the "big hire" when we got Doherty and got an ESPN headline the day he was hired- and I don't think we got another one until the 28 pt. debacle six years later.

Yeah, Shaka Smart could be had for the right $ amount potentially- but two things- one, I assume so big time programs (Illinois?) will be ponying up cash for him as well, and two, who's putting up the money on our end? Is the CoC getting back together for a basketball round? I feel like, if he turned down NC State last year, we won't have the money to be a serious player.

Money wasn't why he didn't take the Nc State position, the AD & the fan base were the reason. State has trouble attracting coaches b/c their fan base is delusional and can't accept they aren't Duke or UNC. Worse yet, they have Maryland's old AD, who made Gary Williams life hell for 20 years. She's well known in hoops circles as someone that fought a HOF coach at every turn, and never handled matters internally. Instead, she'd call press conferences and turn on her own revenue coaches. There is a reason they missed on 9 candidates before Gottfried was brought out of self-imposed retirement

I get what you're saying- but there's no reason they can't be a top-tier ACC program. They're in the tourney this year as a 6 seed. Good facilities, much easier to recruit there, etc.

SMU is miles behind NCSU right now. We're miles behind anyone who's going to be a serious player for Shaka Smart.

SMU may be miles behind NCSU, but it's still not considered a good job. Nobody wants to work w/frau yow. Not many consider it an upper tier ACC job/program, at least over the last 30 years or so