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The DC's annual attack on SMU athletics

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"Dozens of SMU students, faculty members and staffers spent the first Thursday of the 2012 spring semester celebrating a new era at the university — SMU’s invitation to join the Big East Conference."

The first sentence says it all. :lol:
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aubreyfrog wrote:"Dozens of SMU students, faculty members and staffers spent the first Thursday of the 2012 spring semester celebrating a new era at the university — SMU’s invitation to join the Big East Conference."

The first sentence says it all. :lol:


I like how you assume that what the DC writes is factual
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Maybe rather than moaning about the budgets the students should make the most of having athletics on campus, perhaps even extending as far as actually attending games.


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I'm sure they just change the byline. Same $#!+, different year. Consider the source.
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I'm sure the writer and the editors wrote this story with the hopes of increasing transparency. But, this is a case of "1 step back" (ie spending) to go 200 steps forward. A little vision is required. The Athletic Department should have provided some better quotes. But that's "journalism" for you.

Personally, I find the article to be bogus.
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If they want to see where their money is going, how about walking into the stadium to see for themselves.
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This article tells what everybody already knows and offers no solution.
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We do not run a deficit, we simply overspend our stated budget each fiscal year. The cost overrun is picked up by the General Operating Fund. The question is why do we overspend our budget? Simple:

My Opinion

1. Our AD budget is not realistic considering the inflationary nature of athletic dept. expenses.
2. Non-rev sports are expensive to operate and most of us do not want to give any of them up. Actually there is a push to increase non-rev sports. A broad array of non-rev sports enhances the college experience and is an important factor in improving SMU's standing as a great university.
3. Other then the COC for FB and BB, we as Mustang fans do not give enough in support of the athletic program. MC donations should be much higher and there should be many more MC members.
4. Filling Ford and Moody is essential to off set expenses in all athletic programs. Season ticket sales should be substantially higher. Hopefully, students will begin to be regular participants and SMU will make a concentrated effort to eliminate FB and BB game student conflicts. (Sad to go to a BB game with few students and have intramural games going on outside).
5. TV money has been small. Going to the Big East should provide an infusion of $$$.

Bottom line is that we have been saved for awhile by going to the BE and the generosity of the COC. We as fans need to step up and show by action not words that we support our athletic program.
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mustangbill67 wrote:We do not run a deficit, we simply overspend our stated budget each fiscal year. The cost overrun is picked up by the General Operating Fund. The question is why do we overspend our budget? Simple:

My Opinion

1. Our AD budget is not realistic considering the inflationary nature of athletic dept. expenses.
2. Non-rev sports are expensive to operate and most of us do not want to give any of them up. Actually there is a push to increase non-rev sports. A broad array of non-rev sports enhances the college experience and is an important factor in improving SMU's standing as a great university.
3. Other then the COC for FB and BB, we as Mustang fans do not give enough in support of the athletic program. MC donations should be much higher and there should be many more MC members.
4. Filling Ford and Moody is essential to off set expenses in all athletic programs. Season ticket sales should be substantially higher. Hopefully, students will begin to be regular participants and SMU will make a concentrated effort to eliminate FB and BB game student conflicts. (Sad to go to a BB game with few students and have intramural games going on outside).
5. TV money has been small. Going to the Big East should provide an infusion of $$$.

Bottom line is that we have been saved for awhile by going to the BE and the generosity of the COC. We as fans need to step up and show by action not words that we support our athletic program.


Very well said. I completely agree with 2-5.

Too bad there doesn't seem to be a big football and basketball fan on the DC staff to refute this and point out #4 (get your asses to the games and support these guys who work their butts off for their scholarships - this ain't 1993 when I was there .... these programs are very competitive and only getting better. HMMM. Maybe a strong Op-Ed by Alumni / Fans is in order?!?
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It is really sad that there is no one to write a conflicting piece on this matter. For me this really highlights one of the biggest problem facing SMU, which is that our student body is very heavy on the douchbag. There is no sense of belonging, or school spirit, and far too much sense of fashion, trend and entitlement.

My solution, for what it's worth, is that all freshman and sophomores, who will soon have to all live on campus should also have to attend games, I would suggest 4 home football games and 10 home basketball games, as well as attending other sports and events on campus (including performances at Meadows). It is clear that the current student body is not going to become rounded of it's own accord, but I think that if they were initially forced into it, they would grow to appreciate that SMU (and the world) has to offer beyond lattes and Polo Ralph Lauren.
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The financial condition of the athletic department is a perfectly acceptable topic for a student newspaper just as the DMN would report on the financial condition of the City of Dallas. I'd be more concerned if SMU had a student newspaper which didn't raise these issues. Contrasting views on the topic ain't gonna kill anybody especially when mutual pro-athletic department persons were interviewed or given the opportunity to comment. I think it was actually one of the most professionally researched and written article I've ever read in the Daily Campus
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Stallion wrote:The financial condition of the athletic department is a perfectly acceptable topic for a student newspaper just as the DMN would report on the financial condition of the City of Dallas. I'd be more concerned if SMU had a student newspaper which didn't raise these issues. Contrasting views on the topic ain't gonna kill anybody especially when mutual pro-athletic department persons were interviewed or given the opportunity to comment. I think it was actually one of the most professionally researched and written article I've ever read in the Daily Campus


But that's not saying much. They mentioned the true deficit (minus grants-in-aid) which is a plus but the focus of the article is on the deficit + grants-in-aid which isn't much more than an imaginary number floating around.
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mustangbill67 wrote:We do not run a deficit, we simply overspend our stated budget each fiscal year.


Overspending your budget is not running a deficit? Classic! 'Fess up: You're a congressman, aren't you?

Full disclosure: TCU runs an athletics deficit too. Most FBS schools do. Only about 15 or so FBS programs actually break even or make a profit, so I'm not singling out SMU. Just amused at the political doublespeak by mustangbill.

This story is a simply a standard wannabe exposé by student reporters fancying themselves the new Woodward and Bernstein. Happens at "that other school" on the other side of the Metroplex too.

Move along, folks. Nothing to see here.
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Deep Purple wrote:
mustangbill67 wrote:We do not run a deficit, we simply overspend our stated budget each fiscal year.


Overspending your budget is not running a deficit? Classic! 'Fess up: You're a congressman, aren't you?

Full disclosure: TCU runs an athletics deficit too. Most FBS schools do. Only about 15 or so FBS programs actually break even or make a profit, so I'm not singling out SMU. Just amused at the political doublespeak by mustangbill.

This story is a simply a standard wannabe exposé by student reporters fancying themselves the new Woodward and Bernstein. Happens at "that other school" on the other side of the Metroplex too.

Move along, folks. Nothing to see here.

I'm sure mustangbill67 had his tongue buried deep in his cheek on that one. 8)
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