FSU and Clemson to the Big 12.???

91mustang · Post by **91mustang** » Sun May 13, 2012 9:45 am

jpe747 wrote:We are in the right place (BE) especially if SMU consistently beats the Big12 teams (as I think they will). The Big12 is ruined by the political power of one or two schools. I don't think the BE will have such a mess. However, down the line, SEC might be a consideration.

Did you also dream of rainbows and unicorns?

ReedFrawg · Post by **ReedFrawg** » Sun May 13, 2012 8:04 pm

goldenstang wrote:Call me crazy but I don't think there is much of a chance of this happening. Yes the Big 12 is a much better football conference but besides that there isn't much of a difference between the two leagues.

Ok you are crazy. Big 12 hoops was much better top to bottom this season - not sure about women's hoops or baseball.

WordUpBU · Post by **WordUpBU** » Mon May 14, 2012 10:38 am

goldenstang wrote:I realize there is more tv money but exit from the ACC also require 20 million dollar fee. The exit fee coupled with increased expenses has to make it somewhat close. If those schools are in as much financial trouble as has been reported then I don't understand how they are going to come up with the 20 million.

The revenue difference could be north of 10m per year. Rumor is the Big12 is offering 10m to help with buyout and is helping with increased travel cost.

Kynd Tulsa Phan · Post by **Kynd Tulsa Phan** » Mon May 14, 2012 11:16 am

Its going to happen.

SMU89 · Post by **SMU89** » Mon May 14, 2012 3:53 pm

http://floridastate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1365254

leopold · Post by **leopold** » Mon May 14, 2012 9:10 pm

Christ, I'm sick of conference expansion. Nothing makes sense anymore.

Whatever. Look, if this happens expect Uconn and Rutgers to be on the phone the next day to the ACC. Louisville too, but don't expect UL to get a bid. Who the Big East goes after, I don't know, don't care.

On an unrelated note, Kind Tulsa Phan can now step away from the ledge.

Kynd Tulsa Phan · Post by **Kynd Tulsa Phan** » Tue May 15, 2012 12:33 pm

the big east will probably pass Tulsa over for Utsa and ill 100% Kms

ericdickerson4life · Post by **ericdickerson4life** » Tue May 15, 2012 3:01 pm

Lest we all forget our history lesson. The ACC was once upon a time the leader in creating the conference expansion mess. They tapped Miami, Boston College and Virginia Tech to help them form what looked to be the nation's top football conference. Remember FSU was still pretty good, Miami was a national contender year after year, and Virginia Tech was considered one of the nations elite coming off their NC apperance. Since then they have all slid back a few spots.

Everything is cyclical. The biggest issue I have with all the conference realignment is that everyone is just looking at the immediate future. It's pretty maddening. Do you think Pitt and Syracuse would have made the jump knowing or thinking Clemson and FSU would head out the door shortly thereafter? Sure looked good in the immediate future though. Think FSU would rather be in the ACC if UT and OU bolt? Someone might want to take a look a little bit further down the road. And even UT and OU stayed, is FSU really going to be OK with those two schools getting the largest share first with unbalanced payouts? Their is a reason Nebraska, Missouri and A&M bolted.

SMU got lucky to get a BE invite. And honestly with the way BBall is taking shape under Brown, I wouldn't want to leave. Time to build a conference and a brand. Not too mention you have to give Orsini lots of credit as with the hire of Brown and the headlines we are making. SMU is more attractive then ever as a conference partner.

As for Tulsa, yep, they are stuck. BE won't back-fill with one of the smallest Division I schools in a fairly desolate place. KTP will just have to find the nearest suicide booth.

SMU89 · Post by **SMU89** » Tue May 15, 2012 10:55 pm

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/05/15/coll ... alignment/

CalallenStang · Post by **CalallenStang** » Wed May 16, 2012 3:08 am

Kynd Tulsa Phan wrote:[url]the big east will probably pass Tulsa over for Utsa[/url] and ill 100% Kms

I sure as heck hope the Big East can do better than UTSA

rodrod5 · Post by **rodrod5** » Wed May 16, 2012 12:03 pm

ericdickerson4life wrote:
Everything is cyclical. The biggest issue I have with all the conference realignment is that everyone is just looking at the immediate future. It's pretty maddening. Do you think Pitt and Syracuse would have made the jump knowing or thinking Clemson and FSU would head out the door shortly thereafter? Sure looked good in the immediate future though. Think FSU would rather be in the ACC if UT and OU bolt? Someone might want to take a look a little bit further down the road. And even UT and OU stayed, is FSU really going to be OK with those two schools getting the largest share first with unbalanced payouts? Their is a reason Nebraska, Missouri and A&M bolted.

great points if they were not so much BS

1. TAMU and Nebraska consistently voted for unequal revenue sharing so it would be impossible that they were against it or left because of it

2. the Big 12 no longer has unequal revenue sharing they modified that

3. UT and OU and the other 8 members of the Big 12 have signed over their media rights to the conference for the next 6 years so it will be next to impossible that they leave because if they did they would have to go for the next 6 years without being shown on TV and if they were on TV the Big 12 would get that money not the universities

4. the Big 12 tier 1 deal ends in 2015-2016 and if they negotiate a new deal before then it will include the media rights being signed over for the life of that deal preventing any team from considering leaving

other than that you were onto something with those points! :lol:

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Wed May 16, 2012 1:29 pm

Everyone likes to blame UT because nobody can compete with them except OU. I've said it a million times. Texas ain't leaving for a Conference and allow the State to be split among numerous BCS Conferences. No. 1 goal is to dominate Texas recruiting. They have never made such a move and never threatened such a move. The only time they considered moving is when the Big 12 South would have remained completely in tact in an expanded PAC. They ain't EVER going to the dirty SEC, they ain't ever going to the Big 10. The Big 12 South Division is as stable as any Division in College Football from a UT perspective-the only instability would be from schools that can't compete.