Boise State Commitment List

[SMU 86]

Yes, we need a "great" coach A.J. and with our track record we ought to be able to buy one. I see year 1A.J. as being 2014 A.D. A coach that can win the NBE. I do believe our 4* - 5* recruiting days are a long way off as are many other private schools excluding USC and ND. But we may still be able to win football games much as TCU and Boise have done with less recruiting stars. That's my point.

Good point. It will be interesting to see what TCU does with the harder schedule now.

[hoyas29]

Remember Boise can get transfers that we can't. Also, from what someone else posted they get 2nd chance players that we can't get that have been in more trouble than our 2nd chance players.

But just to give you another vantage point from another one of our future Big East conference partners.

UCF has 7 commits with a total of 30 BCS offers.

Transfers that we can't? Garrett Gilbert?

[SoCal_Pony]

what have we done that is remotely close to Boise state, please spare us this nonsense. Do not even mention us in the same sentence as them.

So true GS,

Boise State's CP is 22-2 vs teams with winning records over the past 4 years, while JJ is 4-20.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

If we had Boise success there would be no JJ controversy regarding recruiting.

[GRGB]

I'd rather win football games than the recruiting stars game. Do they correlate? Probably, at least somewhat, but you couldn't prove that by UT and A&M lately. Or by TCU and Boise, which weren't in the Top 20. Wasn't UT in the Top 5 for the last decade? So some other factors should be taken into account, yes? BTW, Stallion, what's your take on Sports 247 recruiting rankings?

Alabama has been ranked number 1 in recruiting 3 of the past 5 years and I believe they have won the national championship twice during that span of time.

UTexas has had a Top5 Class each of the last 5 years...and they suck

And Boise hasn't had a recruiting class ranked in the Top 50 yet, but in the past 7 years has beaten the Champs of: ACC (at VaTech), MWC (TCU), B12 (OU), PAC10 (UO), Sec-East (at GA, who had the No.3 D in the nation last year), etc.

Best payroll (NY Yankees) doesn't always win, but it certainly makes it more likely.

[GRGB]

Yes, we need a "great" coach A.J. and with our track record we ought to be able to buy one. I see year 1A.J. as being 2014 A.D. A coach that can win the NBE. I do believe our 4* - 5* recruiting days are a long way off as are many other private schools excluding USC and ND. But we may still be able to win football games much as TCU and Boise have done with less recruiting stars. That's my point.

Good point. It will be interesting to see what TCU does with the harder schedule now.

You guys make too much on this. TCU typically plays a hard schedule.

In the Big12 (12-team), how many teams are "hard" for OU? They played 3 hard south teams, 2 paties, and perhaps 1 hard one from the North., and 2 patsies. And then they padded their non-conference with 4 patsies. Fla state was never that good, though they did schedule what should have been a good team.

TCU played 2 hard teams in MWC 6 less difficult ones, and then played 2-3 very hard OOC games (ex: Clemson, Va in same year on the road).

It's not that big of a jump as you think, and less travel now.

[MustangIcon]

Boise State's CP is 22-2 vs teams with winning records over the past 4 years, while JJ is 4-20.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

If we had Boise success there would be no JJ controversy regarding recruiting.

This!

[AusTxPony]

And what was Boise's winning percentage in the five years preceding CP. A heck of a lot better than SMU's. That may have provided some benefit to CP's record! That said, he is a heck of a coach.

[sbsmith]

And what was Boise's winning percentage in the five years preceding CP. A heck of a lot better than SMU's. That may have provided some benefit to CP's record! That said, he is a heck of a coach.

The whole point is that Boise State has been winning a lot the last 13 seasons with marginal recruits, while June has been recruiting the same caliber recruits during that period and not winning anywhere near as much. That's why your original post falls so flat, Boise State's fans have precedent to trust their coaches can win big with marginal recruits while we don't have that with our coaches.

[Stallion]

and if anyone wants to compare the offers in TCU's worst recruiting class in 13 years to this SMU Class-that might be fun too!!!! Go back and check just how many BCS and other offers those TCU recruits had. Its funny because I've compared TCU's offer list each and every year on this board and get called a Horned Frog because each and every year TCU's offer list embarrasses SMU. The only year SMU's offer list was somewhat comparable was the day BEFORE Kleem left. Again TCU has been the No. 1 recruiting non-BCS school over the last 13 years

[jpe747]

I'm so tired of SMU hate. I wish I knew some group that supported SMU football. If we were loosing as badly as we did four or five years ago I probably would understand. But, we are winning. And, we've got kids wanting to be MUSTANGS that haven't played much high school football but have been chosen. They are already hatted by the alumni. I've been around football for virtually my whole life and I've never seen nor heard anything like this. Maybe I'm just too ole and don't understand how sophisticated rating systems are for sophomores and juniors. Maybe I have too much faith in coaches who seem to know what they are looking for when they pick players. And maybe it has been a by chance quark of the universe that JJ has sent so many 'terrible players' to the NFL. Obviously he's too bad of a coach to teach young men how to play, so it must be a quark of luck. Or maybe I'm just disappointed because I hoped my ole school had finally begun to climb out of the clutches of its sudden death syndrome and had begun to become a respectable member of the NCAA. As for a new coach, we've had plenty of 'new coaches'. However, the only successful coach we have had since the death penalty is hated by the fans. We are not Boise State or TCU or UT, etc. None of them lost their football program because of cheating and none of them had to start over at the bottom. But, we might as well start over and this time hire some high school coach and save money because our fan base is not ready for the struggle to relevance that we now face. Besides, what 'good coach' would want to put up with us?

[ojaipony]

THIS!! ^ SO this!! ^

Now, most guys on this board have every right to be critical BECAUSE they support the program ... many are season ticket holders and many would argue this board is the best place to criticize the program and hold it to a higher standard. I'm VERY much in support of this.

HOWEVER, we should support anyone coming here and pull for their wild success.

Remember, we had TWO Parade All-Americans in last year's class alone. Look at the depth we have at WR, LB, RB, etc now.

Boise's program is amazing AND they do NOT have the history we have. Let's get behind THIS team and get very, very positive about running the table this year. I don't care if it's realistic or not. Reality is what you CREATE. I see this year's team being VERY VERY good and VERY capable of running the table. Why not?

QB? Check
RB? Check
WR? Check
OL? Young but more experienced than you think with McJunkin, Collins, and Gottschalk. Better coaching for sure now.
Dline? Ok, that has me nervous but Torlan is the man and Hunt is all-world.
LB? Check
Safety/DB? Check
Special Teams? Check (except I'm not sure on FG kicker yet)

Go 'Stangs! 2012 C-USA winners and Top 25 finishers!!

[alyssa]

THIS!! ^ SO this!! ^



QB? Check
RB? Check
WR? Check
OL? Young but more experienced than you think with McJunkin, Collins, and Gottschalk. Better coaching for sure now.
Dline? Ok, that has me nervous but Torlan is the man and Hunt is all-world.
LB? Check
Safety/DB? Check
Special Teams? Check (except I'm not sure on FG kicker yet)

Go 'Stangs! 2012 C-USA winners and Top 25 finishers!!

I wish the recruits were "better" and coming into a different system to a different HC.

Margus is my favourite Mustang on defence and maybe the entire team but he is no longer "all-world" in the throws (if that's what you are talking about). I hope he makes it in the NFL if that's what he wants and in the throws someday too.

It's been too long for him to be a current world class thrower. He was as a Junior athlete but not as an adult athlete among the Seniors.
I wish he was. I'd love to see him compete when I'll be in London watching the athletics events at the Olympics.

He was 70th person in the world on the IAAF list in the discus in 2010. That was 4th out of 5 for Estonia. He's not been on the IAAF list in the Hammer, Discus, or Shot Put since then.
His personal bests are 17.64 in the Shot Put in 2009. 61.33 in the discus in 2010. 62.46 in the Hammer in 2008.
Those personal bests are no where near the 2012 olympic qualifying standards.
Those are Discus 'A' 65.00. Discus 'B' 63.00.
Hammer 'A' 78.00'. Hammer 'B' 74.00.
Shot Put 'A' 20.50. Shot Put 'B' 20.00.

It reminds me that the track and field program at SMU is not in good shape. It's gotten to where I can't even talk about our track program to fans of the sport who are fans at other programs.

[AusTxPony]

^SEE^ Find the "leaden" lining in every post. The haters wouldn't be so bad if they just weren't so predictable. They take the "safe" road by being negative. They can be "right" if we are defeated, and as fans, "happy" if we win. They can't lose. But bottom line is they add very little to the conversation and I tire of their repetitive rants.

[jpe747]

I understand at least one of our recruits has grown somewhat discontent with SMU and is looking elsewhere. The excuse he gives is that he would like to run track as well as play football. And, he is FAST!!! However, that wasn't an issue before he committed. I wonder if he has read what has been said about him on this board?

As for me, I want him at SMU. I look forward to watching him catch passes and score touchdowns.

[BigT3x]

I understand at least one of our recruits has grown somewhat discontent with SMU and is looking elsewhere. The excuse he gives is that he would like to run track as well as play football. And, he is FAST!!! However, that wasn't an issue before he committed. I wonder if he has read what has been said about him on this board?

As for me, I want him at SMU. I look forward to watching him catch passes and score touchdowns.

The downer crowd that has taken over this board will be gleeful about this. They caused it, they will celebrate it. Fantastic.