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Re: GET PENN STATE PLAYER HERE!!!

Postby RyanSMU98 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:01 pm

Rebel10 wrote:The problem with the June to the death supporters is that they will find any thread of argument to defend him. They will spin it at will. If we had the aggressive recruiters on staff that Stoops has then we would be in a different position. June has shown his more laid back approach in practices (very little hitting even though he recently stated that we have good depth), his recruiting (we are now beating out UNT and UTSA recruits as opposed to lower tier BCS teams), and his staff ( a good amount of them over 60). Sometimes the best thing for the June to the death supporters to do is just keep their mouth shut. But the would be censorship. Oh wait, isn't that what they are telling everyone else to do. They are already making excuses in advance if the team is not competitive in the games against BU, ATM, and TCU. I guess I will wait for the next response from one of them. :roll:


The same can be said for the death to June Jones crowd out here. People out here on both sides take it very personally and I think in the frustration of having no actual control over the situation we start taking shots at each other which accomplishes nothing. I put myself in the camp of June supporters from the perspective of what he has accomplished as a coach. That said, looking at the efforts of his staff to get Big East ready and looking at LB's efforts to get Big East ready, one has to question June's approach. Despite what ESPN wants folks to believe, the BEAST is a HUGE step up in competition from C-USA, and we need the athletes that can play at that level. June, for whatever his various reasons, just doesn't seem to put the level of effort to try and get those kids' attention.

For those who have a Scout pay account, a kid who played from 94-98 talked about his recruiting experience, and one thing that came through very clearly is that these kids need to feel wanted. There is something to be said for June Jones knocking on your front door and saying "hey, I really want you to come play for me - come check out what we have to offer". It's great that we are no longer where we used to be, but we seem stuck in neutral now which will quickly turn into reverse when we hit a higher competition level without the horses in place to pull the cart. We as fans can't do much more than express our concerns, and I know many on here have done it directly to June and I hope continue to do so (and to Rick Hart to hopefully light a fire). Whining back and forth at each other out here may help some blow off stress, but it serves no other purpose.
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Re: GET PENN STATE PLAYER HERE!!!

Postby DanFreibergerForHeisman » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:25 pm

It doesn't matter who our head coach is, it is total crap Ped State actively tried to take our players in 1987 and we publicly announce we aren't going to try to take any of their players today.

The NCAA freaking lets them gets away with no punishment for an active cover-up of heinous crimes throughout their football coaching staff, their athletic infrastructure, and the administration of their alleged university! All in order to protect the almighty football team. 1000 times worse than what we did.

They have already made 10 times more than $60 million on football by hiding all of this stuff over the years. I honestly don't know how any player in any sport could possibly play for them, but I guess there are stupid people in this world.

Who knows if any of their players would want to come here, but we owe it to U.S. America to at least listen if they want to. The useless NCAA certainly isn't going to do anything about total athletic department and university corruption anymore. Well, unless you aren't in the SEC, Pac-10, or Big 10.
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Re: GET PENN STATE PLAYER HERE!!!

Postby leopold » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:58 am

We will listen if they ask. I believe that JJ has said that we will not pursue them unless they call us first.

And frankly, I think that's best for us. We don't need our coaches going after shots in the dark when they are needed in Dallas to coach a month before the season begins.
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Re: GET PENN STATE PLAYER HERE!!!

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:56 pm

leopold wrote:We will listen if they ask. I believe that JJ has said that we will not pursue them unless they call us first.

And frankly, I think that's best for us. We don't need our coaches going after shots in the dark when they are needed in Dallas to coach a month before the season begins.


Apparently we are taking shots in the dark on players that have not heard from us or were not were that interested in us on regular recruiting. See Darius Graham and Trevorris Johnson
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Re: GET PENN STATE PLAYER HERE!!!

Postby SMU 86 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:58 pm

Roach wrote:Bob Stoops also just said on ESPN that he only will recruit a Penn State player if the player reaches out to OU and expresses interest — something about wanting players who show an interest in his school. Crazy.


Apparently Bob Stoops Changed his mind.

http://bwi.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1391038
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Re: GET PENN STATE PLAYER HERE!!!

Postby Rebel10 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:53 pm

SMU 86 wrote:
Roach wrote:Bob Stoops also just said on ESPN that he only will recruit a Penn State player if the player reaches out to OU and expresses interest — something about wanting players who show an interest in his school. Crazy.


Apparently Bob Stoops Changed his mind.

http://bwi.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1391038


Yeah, and he got him on too.

http://oklahoma.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1392758
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