Meet the SMU player from the DP-era who played at PSU

[ericdickerson4life]

I'm confused with the argument. And yes, I am a moron.

Rule of law has nothing to do with NCAA sanctions. Correct me if I'm wrong but no one from SMU's DP era went to prison for what they did, did they? Did anyone from USC for the Reggie Bush ordeal? Miami didn't get in trouble until their booster went to prison for something other than giving player improper benefits and then decided to spill the beans.

The NCAA makes its own rules, they are a private organization. PSU can leave whenever they want to form their own athletic league and never face any punishment. (There have always been rumors of the BCS schools doing this and leaving everyone else behind).

They could have, and should have, truly hammered PSU. Emmert is a blow hard and the punishment was weak. The fact of the matter, from an NCAA perspective, is you had from the coaches on the football staff, to the ADs office, all the way up to the President of the University covering up a KNOWN pedophile. They also allowed this KNOWN pedophile to continue to attend PSU games/events and come on campus. When accusations came up, they continued their cover up. Now there is one (former) PSU coach behind bars and two PSU officials fighting to remain free. Yep, basically the NCAA said its worse to pay players than to have known felonies running around your campus and their actions covered up from the top down. Lack of Institutional Control!

As for "any action is right", yep when dealing with the NCAA that exactly right. Whether you like it or not they can do whatever they want. And I typically do not like much of what the NCAA does. They are the law when it comes to college football. Judge, jury, and (only in our instance) executioner.

[ponyscott]

I'm confused with the argument. And yes, I am a moron.

Rule of law has nothing to do with NCAA sanctions. Correct me if I'm wrong but no one from SMU's DP era went to prison for what they did, did they? Did anyone from USC for the Reggie Bush ordeal? Miami didn't get in trouble until their booster went to prison for something other than giving player improper benefits and then decided to spill the beans.

The NCAA makes its own rules, they are a private organization. PSU can leave whenever they want to form their own athletic league and never face any punishment. (There have always been rumors of the BCS schools doing this and leaving everyone else behind).

They could have, and should have, truly hammered PSU. Emmert is a blow hard and the punishment was weak. The fact of the matter, from an NCAA perspective, is you had from the coaches on the football staff, to the ADs office, all the way up to the President of the University covering up a KNOWN pedophile. They also allowed this KNOWN pedophile to continue to attend PSU games/events and come on campus. When accusations came up, they continued their cover up. Now there is one (former) PSU coach behind bars and two PSU officials fighting to remain free. Yep, basically the NCAA said its worse to pay players than to have known felonies running around your campus and their actions covered up from the top down. Lack of Institutional Control!

As for "any action is right", yep when dealing with the NCAA that exactly right. Whether you like it or not they can do whatever they want. And I typically do not like much of what the NCAA does. They are the law when it comes to college football. Judge, jury, and (only in our instance) executioner.

You are correct and ponyboy is off base on this....the NCAA has their own rules and is a 'sovereign' state in essence. It has nothing at all to do with the law...

[Topper]

I didn't say they can't do what they did. I said they had no damn right to.

Those two statements are logically incompatible.

By its very action, the NCAA was clearly was within its rights. You do not believe that the NCAA should pronounce judgments regarding what happened at Penn State, despite criminal happenings and the clear lack of institutional control. However, your opinion is meaningless. No matter how you may disagree with the outcome, history has already been decided. The NCAA does have such rights.

I'm not saying that they would have been successful, but PSU did not try to enforce any rights that they might have as a member of the NCAA. There are some legal scholars here who agree (and some who eloquently disagree) with my argument that we should have sued the NCAA for selective enforcement on the theory that an implicit agreement existed that all schools would be treated equally since the purpose of the NCAA (other than making tons of money) is to treat member institutions equally. I can name several schools here in Texas alone that a little bit of discovery would have yielded more evidence against them than the NCAA used to hammer SMU.

[ponyboy]

So they used young boys to win football games. That is new information to me.