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Postby Mustangs35SMU » Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:50 am

Next year is a 12 game year.

Northwestern was scheduled for the 9th next year so unless its been moved to a different date they were dropped.

Boston College was removed a longggggg time ago.

One question though, when did we sign Texas Tech for a 2006 game? First I'm hearing of this.
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Postby Hoop Fan » Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:26 am

I personally like the idea of dropping Wake and I don't think we are ready to compete with BC. But I saw alot of value in the Northwestern game. Like somebody else said, that is a huge alumni area for SMU. SMU ought to seek to play games like that once in while, maybe not a 4 game series or anything. With a decent team, I'd like to see SMU visit UCLA, Northwestern/Notre Dame and Boston College/Army. LA and Chicago draw students and we ought to play on the East Coast before they forget we exist completely out there.
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Postby d_pony » Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:05 am

the NCAA has not offically approved a 12th game as yet - the indications are that they will however - North Texas replaces Northwestern
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Postby JayM » Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:30 pm

gostangs wrote:It would be funny if we were taking out TCU, (more increased $ for them) but I think it is Northwestern. Too bad - I wanted an excuse for a Chicago trip.

Instead of a fun win in Chicago I get a trip up 35 to meangreens armpit, where we see how really worked up a bunch of commuting junior college students can get. At least we still get the win.

Smack aside, this makes total sense and I am glad we are doing it. The last people we should be afraid of are these chickenhawks.


From the Mean Green board. Just the facts.

Question: How many of the Metroplex 1-A teams (TCU,SMU,UNT) have posted overall winning records in the new millenium?

Answer: Two (2) TCU & UNT
TCU 42-18
UNT 32-29
SMU 13-45

Question: In the new millenium, how many bowl games have Metroplex teams participated in?

Answer: Eight (8)
TCU - 4
UNT - 4
SMU - 0

Question: How many winning seasons have Metroplex teams posted in the new millenium?

Answer: Seven (7)
TCU - 4
UNT - 3
SMU - 0

Question: How many losing seasons have Metroplex teams posted in the new millenium?

Answer: Eight (8)
SMU - 5
UNT - 2
TCU - 1

Question: What have the Howell final rankings been for Metroplex teams in the new millenium?

Answer:

2004
#69 UNT
#75 TCU
#100 SMU

2003
#26 TCU
#54 UNT
#117 SMU

2002
#28 TCU
#56 UNT
#110 SMU

2001
#69 TCU
#87 UNT
#93 SMU

2000
#12 TCU
#100 SMU
#103 UNT
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Uhh...not so fast ponies

Postby emmitt01 » Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:00 pm

I agree with all of you that this is a game that is long overdue. I'm not one to whine about how you have been scared of us, though given recent history it would be understandable, but I am just looking forward to a hard fought game come 2006. I think you're a little premature with your predictions of a win. Show me more than 3 wins and maybe we'll talk.

And before anyone shows their [deleted] and posts "but you play in the Sun Belt so that's why you're winning" take a look at the Sagarin ratings for the Sun Belt schools versus your beloved ponies. Or, just look at where NT ends the season ranked every year versus SMU. Not flaming, just stating the facts as a third party sees it.
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Postby Col. Nathan R. Jessep » Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:03 pm

Thanks for the 'facts', Jay.

You left out 1 fact: Metroplex leagues "level of difficulty" ranking:

1] CUSA

2] WAC

3] TX HS 8-5A

4] SUNBELT
YOU WANT THE TRUTH? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
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Ok

Postby emmitt01 » Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:36 pm

Col Ketchup

Cleary we could argue all day about the Sun Belt versus the WAC but instead let's just look at common opponents where there were any:
2001
TCU 19-5 UNT
TCU 38-10 SMU

2002
TCU 16-10 UNT
TCU 17-6 SMU

2003
Baylor 14-52 UNT
Baylor 10-7 SMU

It looks as if we fared about evenly against common opponents up until 2003 when North Texas moved forward blowing out a team that SMu couldn't beat. There were no common teams in 2004 but if you consider that SMU managed a big fat 3 wins against San Jose State, Tulsa and Nevada who rank 98, 92, and 91 respectively I don't doubt a Mean Green win in that year either. Or, you can just look at the fact that every ranking site not associated with either school ranks UNT at least 10 spots ahead of the ponies if not higher. And considering that Troy and MTSU are both ranked higher than SMU too the ponies would only be the fourth ranked team in the Sun Belt if you played in it this next year.
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Postby EastStang » Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:47 pm

We'll find out who wins next year, Jethro. Until then, adios and I hear Taco Bell is hiring this month. Don't delay, the alums from local DFW high schools might beat you out for the job.
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Postby Eddie P » Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:51 pm

JayM,

Here's some more numbers for you, since you like them so much. I think you'll see they can be used for either side of an argument, but I think mine makes a HELLUVA lot better argument:

Sagarin Rating for Wac Sagarin Ratings for Sunbeotch
10 Boise State 77 Troy
20 Fresno State 102 North Texas
42 UTEP 104 new Mexico State
71 Louisiana Tech 119 Middle Tennessee St
74 Hawaii 122 U LaLa
105 Tulsa 123 La-Monroe
107 Rice 135 Utah State
118 Nevada 136 Arkansas St
126 SMU 152 Idaho
142 San Jose State

Okay...so this basically shows that NTSU would get it's [deleted] handed to it by half the teams in the WAC, not including toss-ups to Tulsa and Rice. Factor in your typical 0'fer showing during your non-conference schedule and your record starts to look strikingly similar to ours if you played in our "pansy" conference.

Emmit, these numbers are for you as well. I can see that you, JayM and the Elton John of NTSU (MeanGreenGem) like to argue but don't quite have any facts to back your [deleted] up.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Foghorn Leghorn.
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Postby JayM » Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:01 pm

Eddie P wrote:JayM,

Here's some more numbers for you, since you like them so much. I think you'll see they can be used for either side of an argument, but I think mine make a HELLUVA lot better argument:

Sagarin Rating for Wac Sagarin Ratings for Sunbeotch
10 Boise State 77 Troy
20 Fresno State 102 North Texas
42 UTEP 104 new Mexico State
71 Louisiana Tech 119 Middle Tennessee St
74 Hawaii 122 U LaLa
105 Tulsa 123 La-Monroe
107 Rice 135 Utah State
118 Nevada 136 Arkansas St
126 SMU 152 Idaho
142 San Jose State

Okay...so this basically shows that NTSU would get it's [deleted] handed to it by half the teams in the WAC, not including toss-ups to Tulsa and Rice. Factor in your typical 0'fer showing during your non-conference schedule and your record starts to look strikingly similar to ours if you played in our "pansy" conference.

Emmit, these numbers are for you as well. I can see that you, JayM and the Elton John of NTSU (MeanGreenGem) like to argue but don't quite have any facts to back your [deleted] up.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Foghorn Leghorn.


You guys are funny, delusional but funny :roll:
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Postby Eddie P » Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:08 pm

Jay, who's delusional? Please interpret the numbers for me. I don't make those numbers...Sagarin does. You threw up some silly garabage earlier and all you can come back with is your weak-ass response. You are a CLOWN from a CLOWN college.

Nice retort.
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Postby JayM » Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:11 pm

Eddie P wrote:Jay, who's delusional? Please interpret the numbers for me. I don't make those numbers...Sagarin does. You threw up some silly garabage earlier and all you can come back with is your weak-[deleted] respone. You are a CLOWN from a CLOWN college.

Nice retort.


Name just one football ranking service that doesn't rate SMU lower that TCU and North Texas. Play with it all ya want SMU is bringing up the Metroplex rear in football.
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Postby MeanGreenGem » Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:11 pm

Well, I've gone ahead and molted my singed tail-feathers and have decided with all my new ones to become a kinder and gentler MGG.

I've (admittedly) been against a football schedule with SMU because of specific things and words expressed in the past, but after further review and consideration of even all that, I've come upon the conclusion that most all that past history really had nothing to do with any of you who actually attended SMU at all.

So as I said, I have now become a kinder and gentler MGG, but undoubtedly the fact still remains that yall don't like us AND we don't like yall, but in the spirit of humanity and brotherhood, can't we all still work on a little detente' between the 2 of us?;)

Now....shall we all sing together......."WE ARE THE WORLD....."

PS: COMING AT A SAFEWAY NEAREST YOU!

BEAT THE HELL OUTTA' SMU IN '06 & '07! We'll be ready for you! Will you be ready for us?!?!?:)
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Postby Eddie P » Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:17 pm

JayM,

You're right. There isn't a service that would rate your school lower than ours. And a 10 year old boy might do better in a 3 year old boys soccer league.

Let's compare apples to apples:
You play in a pathetically weak conference so without your annual undefeated run through the invalids in the Sunbelt, chances are your record (and your beloved ranking) would probably be right around ours. Hell!! You're right around us anyway with your vaunted annual N'awlins Bowl loss.

What's your response to that, clownboy?
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Postby JayM » Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:41 pm

Eddie P wrote:JayM,

You're right. There isn't a service that would rate your school lower than ours. And a 10 year old boy might do better in a 3 year old boys soccer league.

Let's compare apples to apples:
You play in a pathetically weak conference so without your annual undefeated run through the invalids in the Sunbelt, chances are your record (and your beloved ranking) would probably be right around ours. Hell!! You're right around us anyway with your vaunted annual N'awlins Bowl loss.

What's your response to that, clownboy?


Just excuses. SMU is on everyone's list as one of the worst football teams playing 1A football. Sad, but true. Play spinmaster if it makes ya feel better but nothing changes until the Ponies start winning some games.
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