ThisIsOurTime wrote:Even if you put the offenses aside, the situations aren't the same. There is evidence that suggests after Paterno told the higherups about the incident and they were going to take action, he stepped in and advised them not to do so. Think about all the issues with that action. So it is not just a case of him simply doing what he was required to do, he apparently actively blocked further action by PSU brass. Plus, there are even now reports that things may even be much worse that people had originally thought with evidence suggesting Sandusky was a pedophile pimp. Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2186805/Jerry-Sandusky-shared-boys-molested-high-profile-pedophiles-linked-Penn-State-sex-ring.html#ixzz23Cj43cm2.
Also, although it has largely not been reported by the media, Pachall has also received some other penalties aside from the reported drug counseling course including:
1. being removed from the team leadership counsel which he was elected to. 2. removed as the face of the TCU football program for school promotions. 3. removed from a Heisman promotion campaign for him.
These may not seem like big things on their face to you but considering he could potentially be a high NFL draft pick, these events could hurt his exposure and ability to earn more money as his draft stock takes a hit along with his marketability as a brand image. Now those things are all on him, but let's not pretend there were no consequences to his actions. Also, those three things aren't things that a regular player would have happen to them had their failed their first drug test at most colleges.
I can argue on either side of this story, but one claim on this post is absurd. The idea that Patterson could "step in and advise the higher ups at TCU' what to do and change their mind shows that the writer doesn't know the "higher ups" at TCU. Believe me, the "higher ups" at TCU can go to great lengths to raise a lot of money to build a stadium, but letting the football coach dictate school policy? No, not quite. (And from what has been reported, the "higher ups" at TCU DID take action in that Pachall was hit with the same punishment any other TCU student caught in the same bind faces. )
I think you need to read my post again as I am not making that claim and instead saying that is a major distinction between the two incidents.
Junior wrote:High draft pick? I don't see that either.
He already put up a good season last year. If he puts up another good season or two in the Big12, he would have enough evidence to be projected as a first rounder. The talent is there whether you see it or not. Also, quarterbacks are at a premium in the NFL as well so they always get drafted higher than other positions. See Ryan Tannehill and Jake Locker.
Pachall has better size and a better arm than Dalton (2nd round pick). If he puts up numbers this season then he will fly up draft boards. TCU will be in a lot more shootouts then they're accustomed to so there's potential for Pachall to put up big numbers.
Big numbers + Big 12 competition=Heisman contender
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Pashall has a shot at being a top national QB but one big difference is that Dalton is simply a much better athlete. I was shocked at how immoble Paschall was last year-they had to readjust their offense because was not anywhere near the threat Dalton was on the edge and that used to be a BIG BIG part of TCU's offense. I think it makes them easier to defend
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris
When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
Stallion wrote:Pashall has a shot at being a top national QB but one big difference is that Dalton is simply a much better athlete. I was shocked at how immoble Paschall was last year-they had to readjust their offense because was not anywhere near the threat Dalton was on the edge and that used to be a BIG BIG part of TCU's offense. I think it makes them easier to defend
You are comparing a Sophomore QB to a Senior in Andy Dalton. You have to give it some time as Pachall must adjust his running to the college game. It took Andy a couple of years too. Pachall is actually faster in the 40 but doesn't know how to play the angles just yet.
Plus, he doesn't need to become a dual threat QB just do enough to keep the defense honest. Pachall has a better arm than Dalton as he is more accurate and stronger with the deep throws. Dalton was a good QB for a lot of the intangibles but he did not have the strong arm. That is why he fell to the 2nd round in lieu of some other QBs.
Here, is a video showing Pachall's warts and all in the Boise game. This gives a pretty good estimation of his abilities and areas he needs to improve on. You will also see him make a few plays with his legs too as this game was a little later in the season than the SMU game and this was against the best defensive front he saw all year. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foAWp0lTPog
I've just never been that impressed by him. I don't claim to be a great judge of talent or anything, just my opinion. And I get the Heisman promotion thing, I just don't see him as a serious contender. I'm willing to take bets as to whether he is in NY when the awards ceremony rolls around this year.
TCU was forced to change their offense because Paschall can't do what Dalton did in the running game. Now that's not unusual with a new QB and TCU has some great Receivers that can take advantage of that change but he is slow as molasses in the pocket and can't run the option which TCU leaned under Dalton. If he can't run the option neither can their RBs excell on the corners like under Dalton and defenses can safely adjust
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris
When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
