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Again, the tape doesn't lie

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Watched game with my uncle who has umpired in college for 25 plus years, 12 with the same crew, plus we slow motioned some of the plays. The tape is clear calls were missed, and by his count 3 easy non-facemask calls on Baylor. My uncle thought worse call was with about 15 seconds or less left in the half they called the Baylor RB out of bounds to stop the clock for them when the RBs body and the ball were still inbounds. He said they are instructed to keep clock running but the sidejudge incorrectly immediately stopped the clock, and actually if you slow it down the clock operator stops it early. Unless Baylor called a timeout that gave them 3 points.

The tape doesn't lie about these things. Facts are it was poorly officiated game, even both announcers Joel Myers and Baldinger commented on it throughout the game. Even in 4th quarter when they missed the clear block in the back on Baylor one of them says "well how would you expect them to get that one when they missed the clear facemasks?" Yes, it was a Big 12 crew and yes the Big 12 commish was there. Those are facts. How you interpret them is up to you.

HOWEVER, that is not why the game was lost at all. They have better athletes and speed, and are much better coached and prepared. To have first and goal inside the 5 and not have better plays with the RBs we supposedly have is ridiculous. Art and Phil outcoached and outprepared Jones and his crew. Again, Jones should bear responsibility for this. And please, can we stop having the QB run to the sideline ? High Schools don't even need to do this.

Also the tackling was horrible all round and our LBs are several times out of position. Just review the tape. Yes JG and Reed can make some great plays, but they often over run things and don't make the routine plays. If you watch the tape, there is one sequence where 3 plays in a row JG misses a tackle, only them to have the tackle also missed at second level by #20. I think fundamaental tackling drills would be my starting point for the defense. The UTEP RB who sliced up the OU front 7 will be licking his chops for us in El Paso if that is not straightened up.
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good post. echoes what i've said elsewhere, but in a more thought-out manner.

did clear up the mystery around whose crew it was. i had just assumed it was a Big 12 crew.

still haven't worked up the nerve to watch it again yet.
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Who picks the officiating crew?

Is it the home team conference? If so, I think a CUSA crew needs to watch this game and take revenge on TCU.

(Poor froggies)
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I refuse to even try to use the refs as a way of justifying Sunday's disgrace of a performance. Baylor whipped our @$$es silly, and that's all there is to it.
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CenTXpony wrote:I refuse to even try to use the refs as a way of justifying Sunday's disgrace of a performance. Baylor whipped our @$$es silly, and that's all there is to it.
Agree times 2. There were call against Baylor also that made you scratch your head. Just poorly officiated game all around. My uncle said if Big 12 grades these guys would not be a good one. He commented on things like linemen and back judge even out of position, etc. things I never saw.

BUT, again that is not at all why we got whipped. They are stronger, faster, tackled tons better, and their coaches had them ready to go. Ridiculous performance in year 5 and for $2million a year. I've suffered thru this since 1990 with season tickets, them calling us for more money, etc. I'd rather have JIm Streety from Madison High School down here or Larry HIll from Smithson Valley at this point because I know their kids would be well prepared, tackle well and know their spots, and play with some passion at want to.
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I was re-watching my mental tape of the game on the drive home, and again just now, and I think GG didn't play particularly well. He made a few great throws (like to start on drive 1 with the down and out over to the Baylor sideline for the first down), but he was simply throwing to erratically.

Yes, there were dropped balls, and DJ should have caught that TD and ended the half, but he threw an awful lot of low balls (bouncing in) and behind the WR balls (one tipped and INT).

I'm not giving up on 35 of 59 and 290 yards, 2 TDs, 1+1 INT just yet, I think he'll improve. Normally, it takes 2-3 years to get this offense. That's what's so unrealistic - that GG would just come in here and take charge. The spread he ran is not the RnS. I counted at least 3 times he threw the out ball and the WR was flying up the field (potential TD). Very hard to be in sync.

I expect improvement, though.
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GRGB wrote:I was re-watching my mental tape of the game on the drive home, and again just now, and I think GG didn't play particularly well. He made a few great throws (like to start on drive 1 with the down and out over to the Baylor sideline for the first down), but he was simply throwing to erratically.

Yes, there were dropped balls, and DJ should have caught that TD and ended the half, but he threw an awful lot of low balls (bouncing in) and behind the WR balls (one tipped and INT).

I'm not giving up on 35 of 59 and 290 yards, 2 TDs, 1+1 INT just yet, I think he'll improve. Normally, it takes 2-3 years to get this offense. That's what's so unrealistic - that GG would just come in here and take charge. The spread he ran is not the RnS. I counted at least 3 times he threw the out ball and the WR was flying up the field (potential TD). Very hard to be in sync.

I expect improvement, though.
He seemed to be going through his reads and not "locking in" to a receiver.
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I hope so, I am no fb expert. I just saw some bad throws that had they been timed better, could have changed the complexion of the offense. I saw 2-3 misreads with the WRs, but those could have been the WR fault - I Don't know. I'm sure the june tape will say "Had we made that it would have been a TD"
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GRGB wrote:I hope so, I am no fb expert. I just saw some bad throws that had they been timed better, could have changed the complexion of the offense. I saw 2-3 misreads with the WRs, but those could have been the WR fault - I Don't know. I'm sure the june tape will say "Had we made that it would have been a TD"
No doubt coordination with receivers needs to get better but kind of expected in the very first game.

I agree, several passes were behind the receivers. There are complaints that he threw many too hard, but if they are on target that will be a good thing.
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He did look down receivers on a couple of throws. But better than last year.
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Its a big myth to claim this offense take three yrs to get. Thats just BS. It is not that hard to learn - but JJ like to keep that floating around for ego reasons.
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It should take less for a guy with 3 years of college experience. BLM and KP wer both 18 year old freshmen. Big difference.
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