Yes, I root against the Frogs in everything, because they're the Frogs, but in all honesty, TCU is a good school in many ways. However, if my son were playing for this man, he'd be transferring or at least leaving the team after this semester.
If your son was on the team, he'd be an adult and would be making his own decisions.
Why do so many on here forget that these "kids" are adults?
Hypothetically speaking, if illegal substances were found in the car during the arrest for DUI, would that constitute strike three?
The "rules," much like most schools, refer to "incidents" and not "offenses" as I believe you're alluding to. So in most cases, no. That said, "incidents" with a multiple of "offenses" are looked at on a case by case basis.
Yes, I root against the Frogs in everything, because they're the Frogs, but in all honesty, TCU is a good school in many ways. However, if my son were playing for this man, he'd be transferring or at least leaving the team after this semester.
If your son was on the team, he'd be an adult and would be making his own decisions.
Why do so many on here forget that these "kids" are adults?
That's true, he would be an adult. But don't students (even adult students) make decisions in part by discussing and consultation with family? I know they do in my family. I transferred to SMU, but only after numerous discussions with both of my parents and also my older brother.
DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:TCU - The Penn State of the South.
No one on this board knows how this will end up. He (Patterson) has a lot of other guys to be accountable for that will be playing tomorrow when the school makes the decision. It was mentioned at his luncheon that he may be relieved this happened so he can end the drama.
Patterson has a game to win tomorrow, that is priority and focus for the 99.2% of the team that didn't get in trouble. Need to get bowl eligible like SMU.
Patterson could play him tomorrow under innocent until proven guilty. He's not. This won't be one person's decision.
The irony is so many pro athletes get a pass when they break the law in similar fashion.
Fever - we all want to believe the best about those that are affiliated with the schools we love, but I have met Patterson on several occasions and your description does not fit the truth. He is not a great guy, I don't even think he is a good guy. He is an [deleted] basically. If you really think the soft peddling of this situation is about what's good for the "student athlete" vs what is good for the w/l column, you are too just kidding yourself.
They need this Iowa State game to make sure they secure enough wins to get a decent bowl game; this should not surprise anyone. Pressure to win. Period.
It's just a shame because the kid obviously has issues and you get the feeling he may squander the opportunity he has to earn a college degree and possibly an opportunity to play professionally.
let's just hope our guys stay out of trouble and we don't face this kind of issue
gostangs wrote:Fever - we all want to believe the best about those that are affiliated with the schools we love, but I have met Patterson on several occasions and your description does not fit the truth. He is not a great guy, I don't even think he is a good guy. He is an [deleted] basically. If you really think the soft peddling of this situation is about what's good for the "student athlete" vs what is good for the w/l column, you are too just kidding yourself.
I don't think they're soft peddling this; CGP's reasoning for keeping him on the field (aside from the fact that he's still eligible to be -- he didn't do anything that would traditionally warrant being kicked off) the lesson he'll learn by standing on the sidelines with his head down in embarrassment will be far greater than being kicked off the team and effectively ruin his college/pro career.
He can still turn his life around, though with no more free-passes. Hopefully he sees the writing on the wall and wakes the [deleted] up!
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ojaipony wrote:What's the precedent? Anyone know what other "top 25" teams have done in the past with this kind of record with a marquee player? Just looking for FACTS if anyone has them.
Thanks.
See Honeybadger and LSU. LSU even had the sense to do the right thing.
He had failed at least 3 drug tests in one summer.
What I don't understand is the double standard applied to different players. Some players after the first drug bust were cut from the team. I get the 3 strike rule is based on university policy, but it looks like Patterson is choosing to selectively apply it to how it suits him and the win column the best. Let's call a spade a spade.
