SMU_Alumni11 wrote:gord wrote:
1) SMU is in the same conference now as it was just two years ago. Not much has changed.
2) The R&S has been around a long time (since the 80s as many people point out here). Are you saying other teams got beat by it for two years and THEN decided to try and figure out how to stop it? Come on.
No no you misunderstood me.
1) when we got JJ our conference was unprepared for the RnS probably let alone never heard of it therefore we had the element of surprise. This advantage only pertains to cupcakes from USA. After couple of years getting beat by us except Houston and the decent cupcakes. Therefore if cupcakes can now defend and win its outdated and flawed
2) the run n shoot has been developed and used during the 80s and was considered a good offense scheme until the defense coaches develop scheme to exploit and thus making it useless. I say the RnS is only good for a surprise attack once teams have the film it's over.
I didn't misunderstand you, I think you misunderstand how this works. The R&S isn't that different from the spread schemes other teams in the conference use. There are some differences, but by-and-large, it's the same. The other coaches in the league, didn't just start doing their homework last year. They have plenty of access to film and other coaches who have defended Jones' R&S. He's been doing this long enough that what he's doing isn't any secret. This is the case now and in any of his years at Hawai'i.
And I would halfway go along with your theory if you had any tactical football knowledge to back it up. You aren't alone here; most everybody here that claims this is an "outdated offense" wouldn't have the first clue as to what the offense is trying to do out there.
Just because it's not working now, doesn't mean that "everyone has figured it out." I'll let you in on a secret why it's not working here:
talent. It's that simple. They haven't figured out the scheme; other teams have better players than we do. Jones has shown was pretty good receivers and a half-decent QB can do: win 23 games over three years. It's not happening this year because the talent has dropped off considerably. People here can reach the conclusion that defenses have figured it out, but in reality, it's the severe talent drop-off, and it doesn't look like it's getting any better.
I can guarantee you that if SMU and West Virginia traded talent on offense, we wouldn't be in the hole we're in now and there'd be no complaints about how much the offense sucks.
