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Postby Stallion » Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:59 pm

the numbers speak for themselves- 1 out of every 5 players from the Rivals Top 50 hails from Texas including the No. 1 Player, 3 out the Top 20, 15 out of the Top 100. The spring signing date hasn't even passed yet and already 85 Texas High School seniors have signed Division 1 scholarships including 27 at BCS schools. These numbers will increase. Oklahoma St signed 4 Top Texans and its recruiting class has been rated No. 1 or No. 2 in the country depending on the source. Texas High School Basketball is without question one of the Top 3 recruiting hotbeds in the country for both quantity and quality.
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Postby LA_Mustang » Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:48 pm

If Green doesn’t declare for the NBA draft, Okie St. has the most talented collection of guards/small forwards in one class I have ever seen. Winning and having success on the biggest stage (NCAA Tourney) will do a lot for recruiting......apparently, it will get the best of the best from the great state of Texas to go to Stillwater, Oklahoma??
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Postby OldPony » Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:18 pm

Stallion- Stick to football. Your b'ball announcementsa are just silly. Look at the top colleges and see how many Texans are in the classes by Duke, AZ, KU, UNC, UK. That might tell you something. Only UT,OU and OSU (ie regional universities)have Texas recruits of any number If you are talking about the class which will be freshmen next year, I haven't seen anyone rank OSU's class ahead of KU's or even mention them in the same breath. Get a grip or you will look as silly as you did in your last post on the b'ball baord which put the Texans against the rest of the US.
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Postby Stallion » Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:56 pm

Four out of the 23 nominees for the 2005 Wooden Award are from Texas(Diougu, Williams, Roberts, and Lucas) including 3 of the 4 two time nominees(Roberts, Diougu and Lucas). Texas had 4 out of 20 Finalists in 2004 including Andre Emmitt, Roberts Diougu, and Lucas.

Three John Wooden Award National Player of the Year winners in 14 years(Johnson, Kenyon Martin, T.J. Ford)

2004 & 2005 PAC Player of the Year & 2005 1st Team SI All-American:Diogu

2004 AP Big 12 Player of the Year: John Lucas

2004 SEC Player of the Year: Lawrence Roberts

2004 First Team All Big 10 and a contender for 2005 Big 10 Player of the Year: Derron Williams

Chris Bosh:ACC and No. 4 NBA

Ndudi Ebi: Rated No. 2 High School Player in Country by Rivals in 2003 and drafted No. 26 overall in NBA Draft as High School Senior

Kendrick Perkins: Rated No. 6 High School player in Country by Rivals picked No. 27 overall in 2003 NBA Draft as High School Senior from Beaumont


I'm still waiting on someone to show a recruiting hotbed that's markedly better. I'll let the facts speak for themselves rather than conventionally wisdom.
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Postby LA_Mustang » Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:04 pm

You’re dead wrong, OP. Okie St’s class IS #1 or #2, along with Kansas. If Green chooses to stay, they probably have their best class ever. Based on Rivals rankings, OSU has the #1 player in the country (Green-Houston), the #20 player (Eaton- Lincoln), the #44 player (Flemings- DeSoto) and the #56 player (Harris – South Garland). I’ve seen three of the four play and I can tell you they are all unbelievable talents. Duke HAS a starter from TX, KU HAS a starter from DFW, Arizona landed one of Texas’ top recruits last year. And your point that only regional schools recruit Texas players is laughable......you don’t think the likes of Duke, KU, Wake, UNC didn’t want and heavily recruit Calvin Miles, Eaton, Harris, Aldridge, Gibson and many more TX players.....of course they did, the kids just chose regional schools. OP, your post is one that’s silly, not Stallion’s.
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Postby LA_Mustang » Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:30 pm

One more- Arizona already has a 2006 commitment from Kingwood's Nic Wise....maybe he has a relative that lives in the Tucson area who hounded the UA coaches....why else would Arizona look to Texas for basketball talent??
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Postby Stallion » Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:38 pm

For those that don't know Wise who committed to Arizona AS A HIGH SCHOOL FRESHMAN(!) just lead his team to the 5A Championship as a Junior. Georgia Tech has Ft Worth Dunbar's Jeremis Smith who is only a freshman but who was a 2 Time All-State in Texas and MVP of the 2004 Class 5A Championship in leading his team to the 2004 5A Championship. Of course, you mentioned Keith Langford from Kansas who is their second leading scorer despite battling injuriries and G Daniel Ewing(great game today-MVP with 22 points) who is Duke's 3rd leading scorer at 15.0 per game. Bosh of course signed with Georgia Tech out of high school. Other top Texans at Top National programs include Bracey Wright(Indiana), Daniel Horton (Michigan), Jason Horton(Missouri), Cartier Martin(K-St), Warren Carter(Ill-but didn't he transfer?), Ivan McFarlin(OSU's 3rd Leading Scorer-31 points today)Ndudi Ebi (Arizona), Kendrick Perkins(Memphis) ALL National programs as well as the NBA recruit Texas. Oh yeah some guy named Shaq whose heading to the NBA Hall Of Fame.
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Postby Stampede » Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:39 pm

my guess is Wise has played or is currently playing for the AAU team in Houston that is run by the dad of Josh Pastner, one of Arizona's assistant coaches.

Think that might have soemthing to do with the commitment?
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Postby LA_Mustang » Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:19 pm

Ebi (T-Wolves) and Perkins (Celtics) committed to those schools but went straight to the NBA.....both would have been much better off with a year or two of college bball.

BTW, if you're struggling to convince someone that Texas is a recruiting hotbed for basketball, they obviously have been asleep for ten years or have no clue about current state of hoops. DFW and Houston are right there with Chicago, DC, NYC, Philly and LA when it comes to producing talent.
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Postby Camel » Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:03 pm

When the "anyone who disagrees with me or challenges my knowledge" rants start, it starts to sound here like I can only imagine it would have sounded if Congress had stuck Canseco in the same green room as the other baseball players before that steroid hearing circus last week.
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Postby EastStang » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:29 am

Only 1 player on the First team All-America team is from Texas. 1 out of five. If you go two deep its 1 out of ten. One player is also from Australia. So, I guess by that analogy 1/10th of all NCAA Division 1 calibre basketball players should come from Australia. Two are from North Carolina. So, I guess 20% come from North Carolina.
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Postby Stallion » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:38 am

name the second North Carolinian-other than Paul? Reddick is from Virgina, Sheldon Williams is from Big 12 Country Oklahoma and Sean May is from Indiana. The ACC is good because they recruit the best players nationally not necessarily because they have the best high school basketball. All national programs recruit at national camps like Nike and AAU tournaments. They could care less where you are from.
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Another Texas BBall Player

Postby MUSTANGFOREVER69 » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:43 pm

Stallion, how could you forget Emeka Okafor from UConn's National Championship team and Bellaire, Texas?

And, a few years ago there was a pretty good player at Dallas Skyline named Larry Johnson.

And the Wizard from Westwood sure wanted IT to play for him at UCLA.
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Postby Stallion » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:55 pm

Thanks for some reason I thought that was a different Okafor-PROBABLY because he played in the Big East and must be from New York or North Carolina according some. So that makes 4 Wooden Award winners in 14 years not including guys like Shaq and we'll include Akeen The Dream too from Houston Texas via Lagos Nigeria.(UPDATE: Okafor didn't win the Wooden but I remember he won some Player of the Year Award-perhaps Naismith?)
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Another Texas BBall Player

Postby MUSTANGFOREVER69 » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:06 pm

Stallion, while he went straight to the Pros out of Alief Elsik in 1998, Rashard Lewis is playing some good BBall for Seattle today. The Rockets really screwed up when they passed on him in '98. They had 3 First Round picks (none of whom are playing for the team today), and let Rashard (who wanted to play for the Rockets) pass to the top of the Second Round to Seattle. Imagine having a front line consisting of Shaq, Rashard Lewis and Emaka Okafor - all who played their high school BBall in Texas.
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