Flashback to the day June Jones was hired

[ponyboy]

Remembering that we'd spent twenty years in college football hell, the absolute cellar, what was your reasonable expectation after five years? I'm asking an honest question.

[Pony4Life]

2-3 bowls.

[mustangxc]

I honestly wanted SMU in a bowl game last season or this season. If we had made a bowl game last season, then I expected bowl appearances in years 4 and 5. 4 bowl games is better than expected, but that does not really mean he has over performed, simply that we climbed to an acceptable level sooner than expected and have plateaued. I am very happy to be bowling, but am very concerned that we are not improving.

[ponyboy]

Me too. Time to get to that next level.

[joekapp11]

Can't remember exactly what my expectations were but going to 4 straight bowl games and getting out of CUSA definitely exceeded them.

[SMU_Alumni11]

Yeah but we get out because of Dallas not because of JJ

[AustinPerson]

To actually be competitive against the real teams. The game at tech in 2010 was okay. The tcu game in 2011 was good. But tired of the a&m and Baylor outcomes. That's what I really want. Being competitive against those teams.

[Rebel10]

I believe as Stallion has stated that the administrative changes had more to do with it than JJ.

[SMU_Alumni11]

To actually be competitive against the real teams. The game at tech in 2010 was okay. The tcu game in 2011 was good. But tired of the a&m and Baylor outcomes. That's what I really want. Being competitive against those teams.

Exactly, and. I'm worried tech at home is still going to be a beaten

[Rayburn]

Not to lose to teams like Rice and Tulane at this stage.

Not to be blown out by Texas A&M and Baylor.

[CalallenStang]

I expected our head coach to give 110% effort in coaching, recruiting, marketing and selling the school, the program, etc. I expected steady progress toward building this program into one of the top 25 (or at least top 40) in the country. I expected to leave Tulane and Rice in the dust. I expected at least one conference championship.

[ponyboy]

He's done everything I had hoped for in five years, exceeded expectations by taking us from NCAA cellar dweller to an upper tier CUSA team. I did ultimately expect him to replicate the success he had at Hawaii, to get us to a BCS bowl, remembering of course that it didn't happen until his ninth season there.

I am very concerned about recruiting. It still bothers me he tried to bolt. I don't know what I'd do if I were AD. But he's done anything we could have remotely expected to this point.

[Samurai Stang]

He's done everything I had hoped for in five years, exceeded expectations by taking us from NCAA cellar dweller to an upper tier CUSA team.

An upper-tier CUSA team would not lose to Rice or Tulane.

[Treadway21]

He's done everything I had hoped for in five years, exceeded expectations by taking us from NCAA cellar dweller to an upper tier CUSA team. I did ultimately expect him to replicate the success he had at Hawaii, to get us to a BCS bowl, remembering of course that it didn't happen until his ninth season there.

I am very concerned about recruiting. It still bothers me he tried to bolt. I don't know what I'd do if I were AD. But he's done anything we could have remotely expected to this point.

sorry but we are just 6-6 with a win over SFA. Not really that exciting of a season. If we had been competitive against Baylor ATM UCF and Rice, maybe.

[Grant Carter]

I honestly wanted SMU in a bowl game last season or this season. If we had made a bowl game last season, then I expected bowl appearances in years 4 and 5. 4 bowl games is better than expected, but that does not really mean he has over performed, simply that we climbed to an acceptable level sooner than expected and have plateaued. I am very happy to be bowling, but am very concerned that we are not improving.

I agree with this. I did not expect to go to a bowl so soon, but I expected to be better than this by now.