Norm talkin SMU and the BE

[sbsmith]

Since when is New Orleans a big TV market? They're ranked behind San Antonio, Grand Rapids, Birmingham, Buffalo, Oklahoma City and Albuquerque. Where's UTSA or UAB's invites?

[SMU89]

Since when is New Orleans a big TV market? They're ranked behind San Antonio, Grand Rapids, Birmingham, Buffalo, Oklahoma City and Albuquerque. Where's UTSA or UAB's invites?

And by volume consumed?

[sbsmith]

Since when is New Orleans a big TV market? They're ranked behind San Antonio, Grand Rapids, Birmingham, Buffalo, Oklahoma City and Albuquerque. Where's UTSA or UAB's invites?

And by volume consumed?

Tulane makes even less sense when you consider that.

[Comet]

His final suggestion that what's left of the Big East should combine with the Sun Belt tells you Norm really doesn't know what he's talking about. If you're going to throw out a proposal like that, at least say C-USA, or even MWC. He's just slinging headlines for shock value.

However, we should all be appreciative to Norm for at least talking about SMU and its conference. No one else does. And even if the bigger drive-time radio guys talk about SMU and the Big East, they really DO just read the headlines and know nothing.

The basketball-only schools don't get it. Basketball doesn't bring the big money. It's a drop in the bucket compared to what football can bring in. Of course, when you don't have football, that drop looks pretty big.

It's pretty clear that basketball got Memphis (great hoops) and football got Tulane (big TV market) out of this whole deal.

The Sun Belt thing was a head scratcher but thinking about it I think it was just an example he used in that the remnants should look into building a stable regional conference. I hope that Norm is capable of understanding just how wrong and ignorant an actual assertion of BE left-overs -> Sun Belt actually is.

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

I did manage to catch it. Norm just basically outlined the worse case scenario.

Norm almost seems to enjoy talking "worst case scenario" when it involves SMU.
If the worse case does not happen...will Norm have another show or does he just enjoy possible doom/gloom about SMU?

[Treadway21]

He talks SMU more than most and did a great interview with Larry Brown, so I don't think he has it in for us. Normally he does his homework, but this was nothing more than conventional wisdom. Though it was kind of a throw away segment, so maybe he just to fill in some time. He coupled it up with the Tuberville story and another college story. Maybe it is just a BE thing with him.

[Kynd Tulsa Phan]

Lets just assume for a minute that everyone listened to the wise and sage advice of Kynd Tulsa Phan last year.

CUSA would be @ 12. The Big East wouldve dissolved bc of the ACC raids and CUSA would be adding Cinn, USF, UCONN and Temple to a CUSA 16.

Im really smart.

If the chuckleheads in Irving woudlve not blown their load all over the place this still couldve happened but they JUST HAD TO HAVE UTSA, UNT, UNCC, ODU, FIU, FAU, MTSU bc those schools were going to some other phantom league and we had to have them right now!!!

[EastStang]

When we were accepted into the BE, it was an autobid conference with excellent hoops. ND was still in it for all sports. The ACC was at 14, the SEC was at 14, the Big Ten was at 12, the Big XII was at 11. Since then, ND has defected to the ACC for all sports a move no one expected the ACC to make. Maryland went to the Big Ten, most saw that as pure fantasy on UMD's part. Louisville got invited to the ACC because UMD left. Rutgers went to the Big Ten, not shocking, but not expected at the time of the move. So, now we have a totally different environment. What we all need to do is take a deep breath. When the smoke clears you will possibly see a BE football conference with Temple, UConn, Navy, SMU, Memphis, Tulane, Cincy, UH, UCF, USF, and perhaps two more schools (USM and Rice). And that would be a decent conference with some stability. In hoops, if the Catholic hoops teams stay, fine, if not, then UConn, UCF, USF, Temple Cincy, SMU, UH, Memphis and Tulane need to figure out where to go for hoops. They can stay together or join another conference for all sports. Most conferences would wet themselves to add UConn, Temple, Cincy and Memphis and access to the Dallas and Houston recruiting markets. So, I'd say, let's let the smoke clear and see what's up.

[Kynd Tulsa Phan]

It would be must easier to just proclaim KTP as the King of the Internet and recognize him for his genius @ half time during the next home game @ Moody.

Ill go ahead and get a form letter ready for everyone to sign.

[mustangxc]

Lets just assume for a minute that everyone listened to the wise and sage advice of Kynd Tulsa Phan last year.

CUSA would be @ 12. The Big East wouldve dissolved bc of the ACC raids and CUSA would be adding Cinn, USF, UCONN and Temple to a CUSA 16.

Im really smart.

If the chuckleheads in Irving woudlve not blown their load all over the place this still couldve happened but they JUST HAD TO HAVE UTSA, UNT, UNCC, ODU, FIU, FAU, MTSU bc those schools were going to some other phantom league and we had to have them right now!!!

Big East and CUSA jumped the gun on adding teams. If there is any way to disinvite schools you have to do it!

[Kynd Tulsa Phan]

Airport Conference Next Week.

Done Deal.

[WordUpBU]

BE is and remains our best move. Despite defections and media negotiations, remaining in CUSA was untenable, while the MWC would have mean little financially or in media visibility in bigger markets.

For better or worse, BE or NBE remains the best path forward at this time. Le't set aside our self-delusions and make lemonade. BTW, the Larry Brown move is helping in more ways than even we imagined. Our national brand is better and we offer more than a legacy of tradition in FB.

In summary, we need to do our talking on the field and fill the stands. Anything else is an echo chamber.

Pretty much. Even if the Big East isn't what you thought it would be it still is "the best of the rest" and is better than CUSA will end up being.

If the non-football 7 leave then the remaining schools will probably just call up the best schools they can. I would think full members, football only members (like fresno, hawaii, nevada), and some non-football members that add value would all be on the table.

[Kynd Tulsa Phan]

I only listen to the Ticket to hear Corby talk about getting stoned and seeing Widespread Panic.

[Longtime]

Prior to Katrina, New Orleans was the No. 35 television market.

And New Orleans' TV market has always been under-measured because they are not allowed to count viewers in the Baton Rouge and Gulfport/Biloxi markets, even though the broadcast signal overlaps there.

I'm guessing there's also more corporate sponsorship money to be had in New Orleans than in some larger markets. Plus it's a heck of a place to host tournaments and meetings.