New Policies for 2005 Boulevard

[PK]

I don't care what they do at the 'vard as long as they don't prohibit 40 year old alums from having a few cold ones and checking out hot chicks less than half their age (I don't care whether the chick is drinking or not, I'm checking her out).

Duuuuh!

[Dooby]

I don't care what they do at the 'vard as long as they don't prohibit 40 year old alums from having a few cold ones and checking out hot chicks less than half their age (I don't care whether the chick is drinking or not, I'm checking her out).

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[Diamond Girl]

1. Last call should be 30 minutes rather than 5 minutes before game time. It seems to me that 5 minutes before would tend to promote binge drinking. If it's 30 minutes before, the students would have time to finish their drinks without slamming them.
2. Students shouldn't be allowed to get more than one drink at a time.
3. In order to get more students to the games, the only available restrooms should be the ones inside the stadium starting 30 minutes or so before game time.
4. SMU should offer a responsible drinking class like the one that's offered at the UW (Seattle). Granted, the students there had to be 21 and over, but if it's offered to the Greeks during chapter meetings (without the alcohol being available) and in undergraduate dorms during floor meetings, maybe more students, both legal and underage, would stop bingeing.

[couch 'em]

I've got it! In order to get your student 21+ wristband (which really means greek 21+ wrist band because how can you tell someone is a student unless they are greek) you must get your ticket torn!

Either that or make the boulevard part of the stadium, and sell/tear tickets on the boulivard.

[Ikus]

.... 3. In order to get more students to the games, the only available restrooms should be the ones inside the stadium starting 30 minutes or so before game time....

So would that mean locking down the dorms during games? And Owens? And Cox? And Perkins Chapel?
Interesting approach, but not realistic.

[MrMustang1965]

underage kids on college campuses drink, that is part of college- I just doubt LSU, Texas, OU, etc.. have to deal with this

Bear in mind that the schools you've just named have student populations MUCH larger than SMU's and that enforcement of underage drinking at those schools is a lot more difficult.

Also, at many of those schools, the tailgating takes place 'off campus' and the school is not liable for what happens if some kid gets 'out of control' while drinking.

Here's an idea: instead of building the "W" library on the old Mrs. Baird's bakery property, turn that into SMU's tailgating area!

[Rosebud]

I'd rather see them make that space into a landfill than the library, but that argument is for another website. Your tailgate idea is a great one. And .... doesn't the fact that it's south of Mockingbird mean it's in Highland Park, which (I think) is not "dry," as UP is .... thereby eliminating some of the hyperfocus from local officials?

[PK]

I'd rather see them make that space into a landfill than the library, but that argument is for another website. Your tailgate idea is a great one. And .... doesn't the fact that it's south of Mockingbird mean it's in Highland Park, which (I think) is not "dry," as UP is .... thereby eliminating some of the hyperfocus from local officials?

Actually that site is in Dallas which in that area, Precinct 1, is very wet.

[SMULLET]

some interesting points made here.

http://www.smudailycampus.com/vnews/dis ... 5e119a4ec7

[DiamondM]

I personally think this is much ado about nothing. Wrist bands are standard
procedure at the bars and other large events that the students typically go
to instead of football and basketball games anyway. So why the heck
complain about the university enforcing the same laws? Whether the impetus
for the TABC crack down has nefarious origins is irrelevant. If controls
aren't put in place to curb the underage drinking (which everyone
acknowledges is a problem), then the Boulevard will be shut down completely.
The university has to take good faith steps to show compliance with the
law.

I don't see how this decreases spirit or student attendance. It is actually
designed to move them from the Boulevard to the stadium, which they aren't
doing for the most part. If you're going to use football games as an excuse
for a outdoor mixer, the least you can do is support the thing that makes it
possible in the first place. (And the suggestion that moving them 50 yards
closer to the stadium and putting the alumni at the north end of the
Boulevard will make a difference in getting them to walk over to the stadium
is completely ridiculous.)

The whole thing about double standard is just whining, IMO. We all argue
that TSA shouldn't be shaking down 80 year old women because they aren't
usually going to be the ones with shoe bombs and box cutters. Same thing
applies here. The place where the minimum amount of rules and checking will
have the greatest impact (and most demonstrate the University's attempts to
comply with obligations UP law and civil obligations as in loco parentis) is
in the group tents north of airline. The university could shakedown the
alumni tents too, I suppose, to eliminate the "unfair" double standard, but
it would result marginally few offenders.

[couch 'em]

Careful - fraternal profiling is groupism and against the constitution!

[jtstang]

The whole thing about double standard is just whining, IMO. We all argue that TSA shouldn't be shaking down 80 year old women because they aren't usually going to be the ones with shoe bombs and box cutters. Same thing applies here.

Now that's not the kind of legal analysis you see every day. Of course I guess if you put enough underage drunks to the task, maybe they could knock over a skyscaper too.

[DiamondM]

Couch em, you're right! I forgot that profiling based on "nationality" (Greek) violates the equal protection clause of the Constitution. My apologies to the whiny student who wrote that editorial.

Of course, I guess said whiny student overslept after a night of drinking and forgot to go to his pre-law U.S. Constitution class wherein he would have learned that the constitution protects its citizens from GOVERNMENT action, not actions of a private university against whiny fraternity boys. Thus, no action by SMU can ever be "unconstitutional."

[Eddie P]

Silly, stupid editorial. I was hoping nobody had read it because there wasn't a salient point in it. It's just the whining of some tool with a persecution complex...

[couch 'em]

Couch em, you're right! I forgot that profiling based on "nationality" (Greek) violates the equal protection clause of the Constitution. My apologies to the whiny student who wrote that editorial.

Of course, I guess said whiny student overslept after a night of drinking and forgot to go to his pre-law U.S. Constitution class wherein he would have learned that the constitution protects its citizens from GOVERNMENT action, not actions of a private university against whiny fraternity boys. Thus, no action by SMU can ever be "unconstitutional."

Since this is a private university, shouldn't the TABC have to get a warrant to come onto campus and start IDing people? I assume that the university owns the streets, so couldn't they just put a sign on all the campus entrances requiring all police officers and government officials to check in somewhere on the edge of campus and present a warrant? Since all the underage drinking occurs on the north part of the boulevard, the excuse of the officers 'seeing' underage drinking and thus searching the premises would be invalid.....?

Obviously I'm an engineering major, heh.