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SMU2007 · Post by **SMU2007** » Thu May 23, 2013 4:42 pm

I think the point is the opposite actually. That no June Jones coached QB has made it in the NFL.

June thanks you for coming to his rescue though, regardless.

Grant Carter · Post by **Grant Carter** » Thu May 23, 2013 5:29 pm

So if padron doesn't make it then it is a great opportunity to slam June. If he did make then it would be a great opportunity to slam June because he could not have success with a qb good enough to play in the nfl. Seems reasonable.

BigT3x · Post by **BigT3x** » Thu May 23, 2013 6:40 pm

Another example of helicopter parents hovering over their precious little angels and running their lives into the ground.

cutter · Post by **cutter** » Thu May 23, 2013 7:31 pm

Junior wrote:
RyanSMU98 wrote:He made it 3 1/2 weeks in an NFL camp, which quite honestly is 3 1/2 weeks longer than I thought he would. Maybe he'll find a home up north.
i don't think he actually made it to OTA's since he hasn't graduated yet. he wasn't going to be able to report until june 14th after he graduated since he's on the quarter system at EWU.

I found this:

While Padron was unable to attend Raiders OTA's due to his college classes not being complete yet, the Raiders added a fifth quarterback to the roster - Matt McGloin.

Padron did attend Raiders three-day rookie minicamp where he failed to impress coaches and at times looked downright awful.

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013 ... ron-waived

Junior · Post by **Junior** » Thu May 23, 2013 7:39 pm

Not exactly a glowing assessment.

PonySnob · Post by **PonySnob** » Thu May 23, 2013 8:42 pm

Looks like that first year might have been his best.........

RyanSMU98 · Post by **RyanSMU98** » Fri May 24, 2013 10:21 am

Ouch. Say what you want about the kid, his parents and his decisions on college, I for one have no ill will towards him and wish him success in whatever he ends up doing. It is too bad he apparently laid a steaming pile in Oakland, but hopefully the experience drives home the importance of having options and he finishes his degree.

ponyboy · Post by **ponyboy** » Fri May 24, 2013 11:31 am

SMU2007 wrote:I think the point is the opposite actually. That no June Jones coached QB has made it in the NFL.

A couple of questions then. Number one, is June Jones' job to prepare QBs for the NFL? Or is his job to win college games? Second, even if it matters, what's a comparison point? What is a reasonable expectation for how many QBs under him should have made it? Since he's spent his college coaching career at two mid level schools, how many quarterbacks on average does a mid level school have make it in the NFL over the same time period JJ has coached? You can't just throw stuff out there without a reasonable yardstick/expectation.

PonySnob · Post by **PonySnob** » Fri May 24, 2013 1:56 pm

ponyboy wrote:
SMU2007 wrote:I think the point is the opposite actually. That no June Jones coached QB has made it in the NFL.
A couple of questions then. Number one, is June Jones' job to prepare QBs for the NFL? Or is his job to win college games? Second, even if it matters, what's a comparison point? What is a reasonable expectation for how many QBs under him should have made it? Since he's spent his college coaching career at two mid level schools, how many quarterbacks on average does a mid level school have make it in the NFL over the same time period JJ has coached? You can't just throw stuff out there without a reasonable yardstick/expectation.

Eastern Illinois has put at least one.................

ponyboy · Post by **ponyboy** » Fri May 24, 2013 3:09 pm

Are you seriously that ignorant of statistics that you'd throw out one data point and expect it to prove anything?

PonySnob · Post by **PonySnob** » Fri May 24, 2013 4:21 pm

ponyboy wrote:Are you seriously that ignorant of statistics that you'd throw out one data point and expect it to prove anything?

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ponyboy · Post by **ponyboy** » Fri May 24, 2013 4:35 pm

There are about 180 mid level teams and only 5 have done what we're requiring JJ to do?

PonySnob · Post by **PonySnob** » Fri May 24, 2013 5:28 pm

ponyboy wrote:There are about 180 mid level teams and only 5 have done what we're requiring JJ to do?

Not sure those 180 teams are all clamoring that they should be in a BCS conference.............

Pony Up · Post by **Pony Up** » Fri May 24, 2013 6:14 pm

ponyboy wrote:There are about 180 mid level teams and only 5 have done what we're requiring JJ to do?

Quit interrupting when someone is trying to find a negative in everything.

SMU2007 · Post by **SMU2007** » Sat May 25, 2013 9:03 am

Ponyboy you are usually a pretty informed (if not blindly optimistic) poster, but you are WAY off base here.

We're talking about making an NFL roster. Not exactly the most ridiculous benchmark. As of 2010, just out of CUSA alone, there were 6 QBs who made opening day rosters (from uab, Utep, southern miss, Houston, ecu, and marshall)

I do think this is a relevant stat. While June's job isn't necessarily to put players in the NFL (somewhat debatable), it does say something about the type of talent he has been able to attract and skill he has been able to develop. For a supposed qb guru, I don't think this is a favorable statistic.

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