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[PonyPlayer4]

The QB was Jeff Tuel, who as it turns out was injured most of the year. Coming into season some had him as the third best QB in the conference, behind Barkley, and I think the kid at Arizona. But regardless Wazzou wasn't much last year, being 3-9 and with the only decent win coming against Washington at the end of the season.

Yes, I singled out CU because they were HORRIBLE (and are expected to be possibly worse this year) and it does go to show how bad WSU was.

Point is, Marks didn't help a very bad team very much, at least last year. Hard to see him being the 'answer' to anything on our team.

They are a very bad team. We are a decent team that needed someone to take pressure off of DJ. He could have been that reliable deep threat that we haven't had since Al left.

[Silk]

"Diamond in the rough" recruiting..........

It's almost like "diamond in the rough" fandom.
You act like you want to support a team, but never do.

[WordUpBU]

The QB was Jeff Tuel, who as it turns out was injured most of the year. Coming into season some had him as the third best QB in the conference, behind Barkley, and I think the kid at Arizona. But regardless Wazzou wasn't much last year, being 3-9 and with the only decent win coming against Washington at the end of the season.

Yes, I singled out CU because they were HORRIBLE (and are expected to be possibly worse this year) and it does go to show how bad WSU was.

Point is, Marks didn't help a very bad team very much, at least last year. Hard to see him being the 'answer' to anything on our team.

Their OLine made SMU's look like 5 incredible hulks. That and injury to the QB position had more to do with their sputtering that the skill positions did. I watched their UCLA game before we played the Bruins and it was comical watching wazzu pass protect. UCLA's front looked like they were playing against a JV o-line.

[PonyPride]

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[PonyPlayer4]

I appreciate the article PP.

However, I think the whole adjusting to Gilbert is a bunch of BS. Catching a ball is the same no matter who is throwing it. It is the same coming from a right handed QB or a left handed QB. You don't need time to adjust to a new QB in order to catch the ball.

I do understand the adjustment and learning curve regarding timing of routes, and know what receivers will do when plays break down.

[smusportspage]

"Diamond in the rough" recruiting..........

It's almost like "diamond in the rough" fandom.
You act like you want to support a team, but never do.

[ghost]

Mumme will be the key. We will see if are still a "five yard passing team with the occasional fly or can we develop a passing game that spreads the defense. MAkes you wonder with all of the technology and preparation if the game hasn't passed the middlee-aged guys who are still hanging on to the old days. These new guys embrace the technology. Aggies seemed to know exactly what we were doing offensively last year and even baited us on some check offs. With their talent they didn't need that advantage too.

[sbsmith]

Mumme will be the key. We will see if are still a "five yard passing team with the occasional fly or can we develop a passing game that spreads the defense.

June is the key since he'll be calling plays and deciding how much of Mumme's ideas to install. Will he fully implement Mumme's "21st Century Air Raid" or will the offense be another mash-up with the same static personnel, tempo and playcalling?

[Stallion]

actually Air Raid is considered more of a horizontal offense while Run and Shoot is considered more of a vertical attack, Still a lot of 5 yard crossing passes in Air Raid. Tech though was more accurate when they ran it-SMU can't seem to find a QB andWR corp that can complete with 65-70% accuracy like they shoot for

[Treadway21]

actually Air Raid is considered more of a horizontal offense while Run and Shoot is considered more of a vertical attack, Still a lot of 5 yard crossing passes in Air Raid. Tech though was more accurate when they ran it-SMU can't seem to find a QB andWR corp that can complete with 65-70% accuracy like they shoot for

We need more horizontal. The problem last year was calling deep passes on third and 1 when our % on those were close to zero. Hopefully Mumme will influence JJ to quit calling those plays when we can't execute them or have the personnel to pull it off.

[jpe747]

Agreed!!!

[WordUpBU]

actually Air Raid is considered more of a horizontal offense while Run and Shoot is considered more of a vertical attack, Still a lot of 5 yard crossing passes in Air Raid. Tech though was more accurate when they ran it-SMU can't seem to find a QB andWR corp that can complete with 65-70% accuracy like they shoot for

We need more horizontal. The problem last year was calling deep passes on third and 1 when our % on those were close to zero. Hopefully Mumme will influence JJ to quit calling those plays when we can't execute them or have the personnel to pull it off.

Well with the classic Run and Shoot stuff there aren't really short or long pass plays, the way the read the coverage and run routes based on that can make it into either depending on how the D is playing you. A lot of your WR's are reading the DB that if he's tight I'm gone and if he's off I am sticking around.

I do think your offense stabilized more once they used Gilbert's legs a bit in the run game. It allowed for a few more reliable small-gainers that his erratic accuracy & WR's frequent drops had been denying you. Having that from the beginning should help a lot- especially if he starts hitting his stride in the air.

[Treadway21]

I get what you are saying, but if one has watched our offense regularly, one will notice we throw vertical when we are inside our ten and on 3rd and short. I am not knowledgable enough to tell you how the plays are called just knowledgable enough to tell you that is what happens and that last year we were particularly unsuccessful with those plays.

We had a post during the season that broke down our play calling on third and short (and this is in regards to not using Line in those situations) and it was not pretty.

Now that we know Gilbert can run and assume Shead will be a threat, I hope put in some third down play calls that include some running plays. There is no greater let down than three and outs when you can't pick up a third and 1 and particularly when you throw long in those situations. That is a very frustrating aspect of June Jone's offense whether it is pure run and shoot or not.

[ponyboy]

"Diamond in the rough" recruiting..........

It's almost like "diamond in the rough" fandom.
You act like you want to support a team, but never do.

Genius.

[couch 'em]

For the 100th time June himself had said repeatedly that most of our plays are not classic RnS receiver route options, but called routes heavily influenced by West Coast concepts.

I am not knowledgeable to know this from watching note connected enough to hear it first hand, but JJ has said this in interviews consistently since day one.