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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby austinponie » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:18 pm

Could have had 8 wins last year with some push/ingenuity on goal-line offense.
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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby EastStang » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:30 pm

I think Rutgers may be beatable, but Temple is not a gimme. They pushed Penn State as recently as two years ago. USF was one of the best in the BE last year. Louisville may be more vulnerable in football than some think.
So for what its worth.
Lets assume we go 1-3 OOC.
We have to go 5-3 to end up at 6-6
I hope that we can beat TCU or TT.
My wet dream has us 4-0 OOC and ranked #1 in the Country in week 6.

6-6 is a sound prediction and would require a great coaching job to get us there.
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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby malonish » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:30 pm

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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby sbsmith » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:38 pm

EastStang wrote:I think Rutgers may be beatable, but Temple is not a gimme. They pushed Penn State as recently as two years ago. USF was one of the best in the BE last year. Louisville may be more vulnerable in football than some think.
So for what its worth.
Lets assume we go 1-3 OOC.
We have to go 5-3 to end up at 6-6
I hope that we can beat TCU or TT.
My wet dream has us 4-0 OOC and ranked #1 in the Country in week 6.

6-6 is a sound prediction and would require a great coaching job to get us there.



USF was terrible last year but then again we're a terrible road team so it evens out.
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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby PonySnob » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:00 pm

AusTxPony wrote:Most likely upsets are TTech and Rutgers. We're so much better at home than on the road. I think you got it right the rest of the way. Best record 8 - 4.


How many teams with winning records have we beaten at home during JJ's tenure?
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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby Charleston Pony » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:11 pm

I want to believe...but this program has pretty consistently been "mildly disappointing" since winning that 1st Hawaii Bowl title. They teased us with that strong start after beating TCU and UCF a couple years back and last year's finish was fun, but unless we can compete with and beat at least one of our former SWC mate non-conference foes, I think it will be more of the same this season.

I could see anywhere from 7-5 to 3-9 and as much as I hate to say it, I think things start ugly with losses to Tech, A&M and TCU. We lose to Montana State and the season is a disaster. We beat Tech or TCU, we go on to a winning season. I just hope we can find a way to go at least 4-2 at Ford. I see that as our only hope of winning 6 games and being bowl eligible.
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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby sbsmith » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:17 pm

PonySnob wrote:
AusTxPony wrote:Most likely upsets are TTech and Rutgers. We're so much better at home than on the road. I think you got it right the rest of the way. Best record 8 - 4.


How many teams with winning records have we beaten at home during JJ's tenure?



2009- ECU (9-5)
2010-Tulsa (10-3)
2012-Tulsa (11-3)
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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby blackoutpony » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:12 pm

sbsmith wrote:[quote="PonySnob]
How many teams with winning records have we beaten at home during JJ's tenure?[/quote]


2009- ECU (9-5)
2010-Tulsa (10-3)
2012-Tulsa (11-3)[/quote][/quote]


3? Really? In 5 years? That's pathetic...

How many winning teams have we beaten on the road in JJ's era?
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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby CA Mustang » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:24 pm

1983 Cotton Bowl wrote:In my time following SMU football, I can remember 1 win against an SEC school (Arky in 97) and one win against a Big-12 school (KU 2000).

Actually SMU beat Arkansas three years in a row ('95-'97).

EastStang wrote:USF was one of the best in the BE last year.

USF was 3-9 last season (1-6 in conference), which led to a coaching change. http://espn.go.com/college-football/sta ... /year/2012

EastStang wrote:Louisville may be more vulnerable in football than some think.

They are supposed to be very good but SMU won't play them this year.
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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby sbsmith » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:29 pm

blackoutpony wrote:
sbsmith wrote:[quote="PonySnob]
How many teams with winning records have we beaten at home during JJ's tenure?[/quote]


2009- ECU (9-5)
2010-Tulsa (10-3)
2012-Tulsa (11-3)[/quote][/quote][/quote]

3? Really? In 5 years? That's pathetic...

How many winning teams have we beaten on the road in JJ's era?[/quote]



Just 1


2011- TCU (11-2)
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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby AusTxPony » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:39 pm

Washington State, BCS. UCF, winning record? Nevada, Fresno St, Pitt.?
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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby sbsmith » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:49 pm

AusTxPony wrote:Washington State, BCS. UCF, winning record? Nevada, Fresno St, Pitt.?



We lost at Wazzu in 2009 (we were their only win), we've never beaten UCF in Orlando (0-3), Nevada, Fresno State and Pitt were all neutral site bowl wins. Currently our only Jones era road win over a team that finished with a winning record was in 2011 at TCU (11-2).
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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby ponyboy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:48 pm

Sounds bad. But how many teams did we play on the road who ended up with a winning record?
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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby sbsmith » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:04 pm

ponyboy wrote:Sounds bad. But how many teams did we play on the road who ended up with a winning record?




17 total


1 win

2011- TCU (11-2)


16 losses

2008- Rice (10-3), Texas Tech (11-2), Navy (8-5)
2009- TCU (12-1), Houston (10-4), Marshall (7-6)
2010- Texas Tech (8-5), Navy (9-4), UCF (11-3)
2011- Texas A&M (7-6), Southern Miss (12-2), Tulsa (8-5), Houston (13-1)
2012- Baylor (8-5), UCF (10-4), Rice (7-6)
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Re: SMU record 6-6 - prove me wrong

Postby ponyboy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:20 pm

sbsmith wrote:
ponyboy wrote:Sounds bad. But how many teams did we play on the road who ended up with a winning record?




17 total


1 win

2011- TCU (11-2)


16 losses

2008- Rice (10-3), Texas Tech (11-2), Navy (8-5)
2009- TCU (12-1), Houston (10-4), Marshall (7-6)
2010- Texas Tech (8-5), Navy (9-4), UCF (11-3)
2011- Texas A&M (7-6), Southern Miss (12-2), Tulsa (8-5), Houston (13-1)
2012- Baylor (8-5), UCF (10-4), Rice (7-6)


We're discounting 2008, so 13 losses to 1 win. Again, sounds bad. But hang with me here.

We won 57% of our games in the past four years. How did other teams with a comparable overall winning percentage do on the road against winning teams?
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