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Postby 50's PONY » Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:11 pm

Got this from a U.T. recruitng site --

http://texas.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra ... &Year=2006
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Postby BUS » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:59 pm

One in the top 10.
Two in the top 50
Five in the total 100.

That is what I counted for SMU.

What I did notice is that if you ain't BCS, you get BS.
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Postby Caballo » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:21 am

If you want to see a symptom of our recruiting problems, look at #60 on the list, Clint Renfro. This kid is a player with great bloodlines. He has his father's catching and route running abilities, and from what I hear also his work ethic.

If you look at the eight schools listed, all that he has medium interest in, three of the schools are where we are, Houston, TCU, and UTEP. He also has Stanford and Duke listed, schools which we feel we scholastically compete with. Oh, and he has Baylor listed.

Until we start winning to a point where the local players start taking an interest, we will continue to be mired in the mud where we are now. Especially some kid like Renfro who has the talent, but maybe not the speed of some of the other WR's in the State.

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Postby BUTitan » Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:16 pm

I think ya'll have more in the Top 100 than we do :x . Maybe Morriss can't recruit but I'm not gonna judge yet.











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Postby Corso » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:45 pm

Don't fret over who has more in the Top 100 list. By my count, we still have just over six months until signing day! I'm not a BU fan by any stretch, but I have to admit, I like Coach Morriss. I think he'll do good things with your program.
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Postby Me » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:00 am

I am an SMU grad but I in no way think we really are on the same academic level as Stanford or Duke. I think we are a good school and all but sometimes SMU feels a little too high and mighty about themselves.
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Postby Dooby » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:08 am

Me wrote:I am an SMU grad but I in no way think we really are on the same academic level as Stanford or Duke. I think we are a good school and all but sometimes SMU feels a little too high and mighty about themselves.


Well, at least someone here agrees with me. Fact is we still admit two out of three people that apply to this place.
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Postby BUS » Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:45 am

The term is False Pioity.

SMU is a VERY Good school but this is still some Pye issues and the Faculty Senate.
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Postby jtstang » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:02 am

Dooby wrote:Well, at least someone here agrees with me. Fact is we still admit two out of three people that apply to this place.

Unless they are athletes. Then we make them prove they can bring up the academic standard of the rest of the student body before we admit them.
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Postby Danny Noonan » Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:05 pm

Dooby wrote:
Me wrote:I am an SMU grad but I in no way think we really are on the same academic level as Stanford or Duke. I think we are a good school and all but sometimes SMU feels a little too high and mighty about themselves.


Well, at least someone here agrees with me. Fact is we still admit two out of three people that apply to this place.


I'd love to see the numbers for those that don't request financial aid. Must be higher. If you got the cash, you can get the degree.
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Postby jtstang » Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:31 pm

Danny Noonan wrote:I'd love to see the numbers for those that don't request financial aid. Must be higher. If you got the cash, you can get the degree.

Here's a question--say you are a rich kid with below average grades who happens to be a great football player and wants to go to SMU. If you pay your own way do you get to bypass all of the faculty scrutiny that other "recruits" are subjected to?
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Postby Danny Noonan » Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:15 pm

jtstang wrote:
Danny Noonan wrote:I'd love to see the numbers for those that don't request financial aid. Must be higher. If you got the cash, you can get the degree.

Here's a question--say you are a rich kid with below average grades who happens to be a great football player and wants to go to SMU. If you pay your own way do you get to bypass all of the faculty scrutiny that other "recruits" are subjected to?


That's a decision that would keep the admissions office busy for a months.

Then again, I'm the wrong person to answer. Maybe we should ask one of the 50 or 60 SMU employees who post on this site.
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Postby DiamondM75 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:31 pm

I believe what you are referring to is a "walkon".

And yes, you can apply, get accepted, enroll and then "walkon" as a football player or any other athelete. You have to pay your own way the first year, but if you are any good, you can earn a scholarship. This would definitely bypass the recruited athelete scrutiny.

I am sure the world is full of really good atheletes that have a lot of money and want to walkon to a mid-major losing program.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:21 pm

Danny Noonan wrote:
Dooby wrote:
Me wrote:I am an SMU grad but I in no way think we really are on the same academic level as Stanford or Duke. I think we are a good school and all but sometimes SMU feels a little too high and mighty about themselves.


Well, at least someone here agrees with me. Fact is we still admit two out of three people that apply to this place.


I'd love to see the numbers for those that don't request financial aid. Must be higher. If you got the cash, you can get the degree.


Somewhere, I got something on that. I'll see if I can dig it up; all that cr@p is at home. Off the top of my head, and I think I have this right, the administration has a category for such applicants who are admitted that have an SAT below X and grades below Y. Of that category, athletes make up about 25% of the admissions, which I guess means that ...well, I am not sure what that means. But that has nothing to do with financial aid and I am not entirely sure what year those numbers are for, maybe 2003.

To me, what is even sillier is that these restrictions were in place and were even more severe right after the death penalty. Have you people seen what our admission rates were in the early '90s? In 1991, we let in 9 out 10 people that applied.

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Postby jtstang » Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:31 pm

DiamondM75 wrote:I believe what you are referring to is a "walkon".

I know what a walk-on ath(no extra "e" here)lete is, thanks. But I have serious doubts the faculty senate has the same view of the bypassing of their jurisdiction that you do, particulaly if the walk-on athlete's grades would have had him scrutinized in the regular recruiting process.

And as for your closing, yeah your cynicism is well taken, but my question was in the realm of hypothetical anyway.
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