Be careful what we wish for?

Rebel10 · Post by **Rebel10** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:22 pm

Is it bad to wish for a top 25? Is it bad to wish for a victory over a ranked BCS team? Is it bad to wish for a 10+ win season? Is it bad to wish for being invited to a better bowl? I do not think so. For the record I think June can make a run next year for that.

mustangxc · Post by **mustangxc** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:36 pm

I think the webmaster meant that if we fire June Jones we could end up with someone worse. June may be mediocre as a recruiter but there is no denying that he motivates his players and puts them in a position to succeed. The last 4 season have been better than any 4 in 25 years at SMU. Ideally we can take that next step but enjoy the current success and don't take anything for granted.

PlanoStang · Post by **PlanoStang** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:41 pm

"Is it bad to wish for a top 25? Is it bad to wish for a victory over a ranked BCS team?"

Actually we have a victory over a ranked soon to be BCS team (the next year), and sniffed the top
25. SMU 40 TCU 33 in FW :!:

sbsmith · Post by **sbsmith** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:47 pm

Haven't you heard, we can't do any better so we should be happy with the table scraps we've been given. Embrace mediocrity.

PlanoStang · Post by **PlanoStang** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:58 pm

After being in the perennial bottom 10 for 20 years I'll give mediocrity a big hug :!:

I think we've plateaued which can happen after going from 1-11 to 8-5 in 1 year. We
haven't fallen back from that, and I think JJ can, and is working to do better :!:

Offense, and GG looked a lot better with the addition of Mumme :!:

Rebel10 · Post by **Rebel10** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:00 pm

mustangxc wrote:I think the webmaster meant that if we fire June Jones we could end up with someone worse. June may be mediocre as a recruiter but there is no denying that he motivates his players and puts them in a position to succeed. The last 4 season have been better than any 4 in 25 years at SMU. Ideally we can take that next step but enjoy the current success and don't take anything for granted.

I guess if we continue to compare our selves to ourselves we might be happy being right where we are. Kind of like on guy from Arkansas told me a few years a ago when they were hoping we would take Houston Nutt off their hands. He said, "Houston Nutt will get you 6 wins a year and ya'll ought to a be happy with that." I them told him that we were not looking for a coach to just us around 6 wins per year. Unfortunately I guess he was right. I guess there will be fear in a lot of peoples eyes when June retires since we can't do better.

PlanoStang · Post by **PlanoStang** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:55 pm

When June retires maybe Mumme can take over :?:

Rebel10 · Post by **Rebel10** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:56 pm

PlanoStang wrote:When June retires maybe Mumme can take over

Mumme or Phillips imo.

redpony · Post by **redpony** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:59 pm

Mumme would be like still having JJ here and Phillips has done nothing to prove that he can recruit top level players.

Higher Authority · Post by **Higher Authority** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:04 pm

You're right - let's give back Zelt Minor and Ced Lancaster.

FWIW, another Phillips-coached player, Patrick Edwards, is supposed to start as an undrafted free agent for the Lions this week.

RyanSMU98 · Post by **RyanSMU98** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:19 pm

I could see JP taking the reigns with some incentives built into his contract and the understanding that he puts together a staff that recruits well.

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Rebel10 · Post by **Rebel10** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:21 pm

Higher Authority wrote:You're right - let's give back Zelt Minor and Ced Lancaster.

FWIW, another Phillips-coached player, Patrick Edwards, is supposed to start as an undrafted free agent for the Lions this week.

I think what he might be saying is what other high schools other than Lamar has he landed anyone?

SMU2007 · Post by **SMU2007** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:38 pm

Rebel10 wrote:Is it bad to wish for a top 25? Is it bad to wish for a victory over a ranked BCS team? Is it bad to wish for a 10+ win season? Is it bad to wish for being invited to a better bowl? I do not think so. For the record I think June can make a run next year for that.

the forever delusional ponyfan. Our recruiting has sucked. Explain to me how we are suddenly going to win 10 games and go to a bcs game? There's something called "building a program" which is completely foreign to JJ and staff. Instead he started assembling the program, lost a few pieces, got confused by the instructions and threw the half assembled thing in the garage.

sbsmith · Post by **sbsmith** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:12 pm

redpony wrote:Mumme would be like still having JJ here and Phillips has done nothing to prove that he can recruit top level players.

Mumme would honestly be worse than having June (twice-failed in FBS and his teams were reputed for being horrible on defense and special teams). Phillips has yet to do anything here to distinguish himself as a coach or recruiter.

78pony · Post by **78pony** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:25 pm

Phillips can recruit. Coaches! And as soon as we can play 85 coaches on the squad, then we found our new head coach.

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