How far have we come?

[Rebel10]

I'd have no problem whatsoever with Tom Mason as the next HC. I think Mason would ditch the outdated R&S and run a more modern offense. I also think he's capable of putting together a solid staff of recruiters that have ties to Texas. We could do worse than Tom Mason.

I think Mason would keep most of the staff. No reason to believe he would fire his friends.

[Rebel10]

I'd have no problem whatsoever with Tom Mason as the next HC. I think Mason would ditch the outdated R&S and run a more modern offense. I also think he's capable of putting together a solid staff of recruiters that have ties to Texas. We could do worse than Tom Mason.

At a time when he need to make a splash nationally, raise our profile, and compete at the highest level to work our way up the realignment ladder, hiring Tom Mason would be a step backwards in my opinion. I think he's a great DC for us, but I don't see him as the right guy to lead our program going forward.

I think we will hire Mason. The argument will be so we can keep the continuity. In turn Mason will keep most of the staff in tact imo.

[mustangxc]

East Coast Mustang: Who cares about making a splash if you can't get results? Just look at TCU and SMU. TCU made a very underwhelming hire in promoting Patterson and is now one of the it programs in college football. SMU made a very splashy hire in landing Jones and many on this board want to show him the door despite 4 consecutive bowl appearances because we are not landing better recruiting classes. If Mason can assemble the type of staff it takes to recruit DFW and Texas then I think he has earned the opportunity. We have been successful the last few years so it would be a smooth tranisiton that would maintain stability in the program. The biggest change would hopefully be seen in February and in subsequent seasons.

[1983 Cotton Bowl]

PonyTime speaks truth.

[Rebel10]

East Coast Mustang: Who cares about making a splash if you can't get results? Just look at TCU and SMU. TCU made a very underwhelming hire in promoting Patterson and is now one of the it programs in college football. SMU made a very splashy hire in landing Jones and many on this board want to show him the door despite 4 consecutive bowl appearances because we are not landing better recruiting classes. If Mason can assemble the type of staff it takes to recruit DFW and Texas then I think he has earned the opportunity. We have been successful the last few years so it would be a smooth tranisiton that would maintain stability in the program. The biggest change would hopefully be seen in February and in subsequent seasons.

You think Mason would fire his friends on staff?

[mustangxc]

I'd have no problem whatsoever with Tom Mason as the next HC. I think Mason would ditch the outdated R&S and run a more modern offense. I also think he's capable of putting together a solid staff of recruiters that have ties to Texas. We could do worse than Tom Mason.

At a time when he need to make a splash nationally, raise our profile, and compete at the highest level to work our way up the realignment ladder, hiring Tom Mason would be a step backwards in my opinion. I think he's a great DC for us, but I don't see him as the right guy to lead our program going forward.

I think we will hire Mason. The argument will be so we can keep the continuity. In turn Mason will keep most of the staff in tact imo.

I would be ok with keeping some on the current staff. I think at least half the staff would move on. Hopefully the ones that actually recruit would stay on and we would land some ace recruiters.

[East Coast Mustang]

East Coast Mustang: Who cares about making a splash if you can't get results? Just look at TCU and SMU. TCU made a very underwhelming hire in promoting Patterson and is now one of the it programs in college football. SMU made a very splashy hire in landing Jones and many on this board want to show him the door despite 4 consecutive bowl appearances because we are not landing better recruiting classes. If Mason can assemble the type of staff it takes to recruit DFW and Texas then I think he has earned the opportunity. We have been successful the last few years so it would be a smooth tranisiton that would maintain stability in the program. The biggest change would hopefully be seen in February and in subsequent seasons.

Maybe you're right, I just think that Patterson is the exception to the rule.

Look at other programs who have made the jump:

Rutgers hired Greg Schiano, who before that was the DC at Miami

Louisville- Petrino who was OC at Auburn, Kragthrope was a dud at UL but proven commodity at the time at Tulsa, and Strong who was long renowned DC at Florida

Utah- Urban Meyer was 17-6 in two seasons at BGSU before being hired by Utah, and then Whittingham may have been underwhelming hire being promoted to HC but he'd been there for 10 years with results to speak for themselves (BCS bowl win). Not sure Mason has his kind of resume

[East Coast Mustang]

I also thought we shouldn't hire Larry Brown though, so what do I know?

[mustangxc]

East Coast Mustang: Who cares about making a splash if you can't get results? Just look at TCU and SMU. TCU made a very underwhelming hire in promoting Patterson and is now one of the it programs in college football. SMU made a very splashy hire in landing Jones and many on this board want to show him the door despite 4 consecutive bowl appearances because we are not landing better recruiting classes. If Mason can assemble the type of staff it takes to recruit DFW and Texas then I think he has earned the opportunity. We have been successful the last few years so it would be a smooth tranisiton that would maintain stability in the program. The biggest change would hopefully be seen in February and in subsequent seasons.

Maybe you're right, I just think that Patterson is the exception to the rule.

Look at other programs who have made the jump:

Rutgers hired Greg Schiano, who before that was the DC at Miami

Louisville- Petrino who was OC at Auburn, Kragthrope was a dud at UL but proven commodity at the time at Tulsa, and Strong who was long renowned DC at Florida

Utah- Urban Meyer was 17-6 in two seasons at BGSU before being hired by Utah, and then Whittingham may have been underwhelming hire being promoted to HC but he'd been there for 10 years with results to speak for themselves (BCS bowl win). Not sure Mason has his kind of resume

In that case, how many programs have promoted their coordinators to head coach? If there is a long list of in-house promotions that prove to be failures, then you have a point. If not it is likely a timing issue. ie there was no opening to offer the coordinators at those schools, but there were openings at other schools.

[mustangxc]

I also thought we shouldn't hire Larry Brown though, so what do I know?

I was in favor of it from the start so there!!!!

[Rebel10]

I would be ok with keeping some on the current staff. I think at least half the staff would move on. Hopefully the ones that actually recruit would stay on and we would land some ace recruiters.

I think he would keep 90% if not all. Not just some imo. Again too many good friends on staff to really let anyone go imo.

[mustangxc]

I would be ok with keeping some on the current staff. I think at least half the staff would move on. Hopefully the ones that actually recruit would stay on and we would land some ace recruiters.

I think he would keep 90% if not all. Not just some imo. Again too many good friends on staff to really let anyone go imo.

That is something that I would discuss with him in the interview and make a condition of his hiring.

[Grant Carter]

I would be ok with keeping some on the current staff. I think at least half the staff would move on. Hopefully the ones that actually recruit would stay on and we would land some ace recruiters.

I think he would keep 90% if not all. Not just some imo. Again too many good friends on staff to really let anyone go imo.

Who are his good friends on the staff?


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[couch 'em]

What a disheartening thread. Here we make a national splash hire in bball, and see the wonderful results, and you want to promote a midgrade DC who cant stop the no huddle and keep most of a non-recruiting staff that has plateaued as an almost-champ of a mid major level conference. Do any of you want to actually win big?

[Stallion]

The STAFF is the PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!